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we don't jail people for being "slightly sociopathic" "assholes", we jail them for breaking the law. Attempting to construe someone's unrelated speech, even as

we don't jail people for being "slightly sociopathic" "assholes", we jail them for breaking the law. Attempting to construe someone's unrelated speech, even as sociopathic as it may come off, as justification for jailing them (remember, for securities fraud) is terribly dishonest and a very dangerous slippery slope. Also, by the way, threatening speech is technically protected under the first amendment [1]. Dunno why you brought up the government/public opinion topic. Here's a lawyer, something I am not, on the matter, although I think we're devolving from my initial point: [0] https://popehat.com/2012/09/19/three-generations-of-a-hackneyed-apologia-for-censorship-are-enough/ https://popehat.com/2012/09/19/three-generations-of-a-hackne... [1] https://popehat.com/2012/09/19/three-generations-of-a-hackneyed-apologia-for-censorship-are-enough/ https://popehat.com/2012/09/19/three-generations-of-a-hackne... To address my empathy comment, I think it's in very poor taste to declare someone "sociopathic" (i.e. shades of mentally ill) if you're not a doctor, close friend/family member, or otherwise licensed professional. Doubly so to make such a judgement based off a small sampling of online commentary. We should all strive to be empathetic and employ a principle of charity when making such judgements, especially before we know the facts.

ossreality 11y ago
So it's a great thing that the SEC investigation began over a year ago. >Doubly so to make such a judgement based off a small sampling of online commentary. Just because you're ignorant about Martin doesn't mean the rest of us are. I just am absolutely aghast at you keeping this up. Just go Google him, read a couple articles and get over it. Stop acting like this is some secret accusation that you don't have the evidence for. >Dunno why you brought up the government/public opinion topic. Because "Free speech" has fuck all to do with anything being discussed in this thread? Unless you're really saying that this investigation that began before he was ever in the news is about "silencing" Martin. Seriously, do you know a single thing about him or his company? I'm sorry I said he was slightly sociopathic. Let me rephrase "He has, on multiple occasions, acted similarly to how classic sociopaths act". ...... yeah, everyone cool now? >We should all strive to be empathetic and employ a principle of charity when making such judgements, especially before we know the facts. And I should empathize with The Westboro Baptist Church and try to "understand" them instead of just investing in efforts that oppose them, eh? I'm tired of this "you have to tolerate intolerance or you're just as bad" and all this other hand-wavey bullshit that is completely pointless. I know everything I need to know to conclude that Martin is a disreputable person that I wouldn't be caught dead with. I think he has a huge ego and treats people very poorly. There are plenty of examples of all of these things.

ossreality 11y ago

So it's a great thing that the SEC investigation began over a year ago. >Doubly so to make such a judgement based off a small sampling of online commentary. Just because you're ignorant about Martin doesn't mean the rest of us are. I just am absolutely aghast at you keeping this up. Just go Google him, read a couple articles and get over it. Stop acting like this is some secret accusation that you don't have the evidence for. >Dunno why you brought up the government/public opinion topic. Because "Free speech" has fuck all to do with anything being discussed in this thread? Unless you're really saying that this investigation that began before he was ever in the news is about "silencing" Martin. Seriously, do you know a single thing about him or his company? I'm sorry I said he was slightly sociopathic. Let me rephrase "He has, on multiple occasions, acted similarly to how classic sociopaths act". ...... yeah, everyone cool now? >We should all strive to be empathetic and employ a principle of charity when making such judgements, especially before we know the facts. And I should empathize with The Westboro Baptist Church and try to "understand" them instead of just investing in efforts that oppose them, eh? I'm tired of this "you have to tolerate intolerance or you're just as bad" and all this other hand-wavey bullshit that is completely pointless. I know everything I need to know to conclude that Martin is a disreputable person that I wouldn't be caught dead with. I think he has a huge ego and treats people very poorly. There are plenty of examples of all of these things.