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I find the claims that P&G makes to be interesting, because unless something has changed, Dollar Shave Club does not actually produce or manufacture under licen
by tristor 11y ago
I find the claims that P&G makes to be interesting, because unless something has changed, Dollar Shave Club does not actually produce or manufacture under license any of its own products, rather the service is about the delivery and cost mechanism, not the actual product received. Instead, they use products made by Dorco, a South Korean company, http://www.dorcousa.com/ http://www.dorcousa.com/.
The 4X, for instance is the same as the Dorco Pace 4 blade system, including compatibility between the cartridges/handles. I think Dollar Shave Club may provide unique handles, but the razor blade cartridges themselves are made by Dorco.
- cfcef 11y ago> rather the service is about the delivery and cost mechanism, not the actual product received. Presumably they are purchasing the razor blades from Dorco and importing them. http://www.uspto.gov/patents-maintaining-patent/patent-litigation/about-patent-infringement http://www.uspto.gov/patents-maintaining-patent/patent-litig... > Patent infringement is the act of making, using, selling, or offering to sell a patented invention, or importing into the United States a product covered by a claim of a patent without the permission of the patent owner. Further, you may be considered to infringe a patent if you import items into the United States that are made by a patented method, unless the item is materially changed by subsequent processes or becomes a trivial and nonessential component of another product. A person “infringes” a patent by practicing each element of a patent claim with respect to one of these acts. Further, actively encouraging others to infringe patents, or supplying or importing components of a patented invention, and related acts can also give rise to liability in certain cases. (If you think about it, of course importing is infringement. Otherwise, patents are worthless: anything patented would simply be made overseas, if they aren't already.)
- Someone1234 11y agoYou can buy directly from Dorco in the US.
- pc86 11y agoSerious question: Does this do anything to lessen the infringement claim against DSC?
- lbotos 11y agoPG sues DSC for using Dorco. Dorco is available directly in the states. Why doesn't PG sue Dorco? (I didn't read the article, but that's the point I think GP was trying to make.)
- pc86 11y agoI agree, and I think it's obvious that PG is only interested in using this as a means to damage DSC. I was asking if DSC could potentially use this as a defense in court, e.g. arguing that PG has a duty to go after Dorco first or at least simultaneously. Edit: To which PG would probably argue that DSC is the largest distributor of the infringing blades and represents the greatest infringement overall.
- JshWright 11y agoOn a related note, it's cheaper (per cartridge) to just buy from Dorco directly. I buy the Pace 4 cartridges in bulk. It's a solid product, at a great price, with excellent customer service. I recently had a package lost by USPS (they got confused because someone had forwarded mail to my address), and after a single email to Dorco, they sent out a replacement order (despite the fact that they had nothing to do with the original package getting lost).
- frogpelt 11y agoI had no idea. I've bought razors from both companies and never noticed that they sold the same products.
- adrr 11y agoGillette sued Dorco in 2008. I think they settled out of court. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/29/business/worldbusiness/29iht-suit.1.12418537.html http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/29/business/worldbusiness/29i...