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guns don't kill people; people with guns kill people. They mostly just kill themselves: "...[S]uicides account for roughly two out of every three gun deaths.

guns don't kill people; people with guns kill people. They mostly just kill themselves: "...[S]uicides account for roughly two out of every three gun deaths."

NiftyFifty 11y ago
I know its like being CPT Obvious, but that is so true. Fix the problem, not the symptom.
- SteveLAnderson 11y ago
  Fixing the issues that lead a person to consider suicide is really hard. Decreasing the number of available guns is much easier and is effective. When Australia decreased the number of guns, the suicide rate (not just gun related suicides, but all suicides) decreased by 65%.
  - brianlweiner 11y ago
    Suicides definitely decrease with less access to guns, however many countries with gun restrictions have higher rates of suicide than the US (e.g Japan, S Korea, France, Belgium) [1] Also suicides via firearm had been declining in Australia prior to any buyback. [2] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_r... [2] http://c5.nrostatic.com/sites/default/files/australia.jpg http://c5.nrostatic.com/sites/default/files/australia.jpg
smileysteve 11y ago
There are also people who decide to commit suicide via automobile. Here are some stats about alcohol related driver deaths in Pennsylvania > 19% of driver deaths for 16-20 year olds were alcohol-related > 44% of driver deaths for 21-25 year olds were alcohol-related > 34% of driver deaths for 26-30 year olds were alcohol-related
- NiftyFifty 11y ago
  note 44% of the demographic. Ya, crazy .... see how prohibition worked well. Just like the war on drugs. Policy does nothing. Its ineffective, and we need to drive poverty down to target the leading population of gun violence, the poor. It's ironic how the African American population is left out of the conversation in Liberal media. Nobody goes to the ghetto in Chicago and asks THEM about gun violence. The modern liberal is a FB subscribing 18-25 year old that doesn't understand the history that drove the conversation to where its at today.

guns don't kill people; people with guns kill people. They mostly just kill themselves: "...[S]uicides account for roughly two out of every three gun deaths."

NiftyFifty 11y ago

I know its like being CPT Obvious, but that is so true. Fix the problem, not the symptom.

SteveLAnderson 11y ago
Fixing the issues that lead a person to consider suicide is really hard. Decreasing the number of available guns is much easier and is effective. When Australia decreased the number of guns, the suicide rate (not just gun related suicides, but all suicides) decreased by 65%.
- brianlweiner 11y ago
  Suicides definitely decrease with less access to guns, however many countries with gun restrictions have higher rates of suicide than the US (e.g Japan, S Korea, France, Belgium) [1] Also suicides via firearm had been declining in Australia prior to any buyback. [2] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_r... [2] http://c5.nrostatic.com/sites/default/files/australia.jpg http://c5.nrostatic.com/sites/default/files/australia.jpg

smileysteve 11y ago

There are also people who decide to commit suicide via automobile. Here are some stats about alcohol related driver deaths in Pennsylvania > 19% of driver deaths for 16-20 year olds were alcohol-related > 44% of driver deaths for 21-25 year olds were alcohol-related > 34% of driver deaths for 26-30 year olds were alcohol-related

NiftyFifty 11y ago
note 44% of the demographic. Ya, crazy .... see how prohibition worked well. Just like the war on drugs. Policy does nothing. Its ineffective, and we need to drive poverty down to target the leading population of gun violence, the poor. It's ironic how the African American population is left out of the conversation in Liberal media. Nobody goes to the ghetto in Chicago and asks THEM about gun violence. The modern liberal is a FB subscribing 18-25 year old that doesn't understand the history that drove the conversation to where its at today.