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The average offer for CS at UIUC is $72,286 [1], so the statement "only the most skewed [figures] come up with starting salaries approaching $60,000 annually" i

by tsally 17y ago

The average offer for CS at UIUC is $72,286 [1], so the statement "only the most skewed [figures] come up with starting salaries approaching $60,000 annually" is definitely false. This article is factually incorrect and has a link bait title. Flagged. [1] http://www.google.com/url?q=http://docs.google.com/viewer%3Fa%3Dv%26q%3Dcache:TmXeL0hhtngJ:https://wiki.engr.illinois.edu/download/attachments/25723907/Salary%252Band%252Bplacement%252Bsummary%252B8.09%253Fversion%253D1%2526modificationDate%253D1249934064963%2Buiuc%2Bcomputer%2Bscience%2Bsalary%26hl%3Den%26gl%3Dus%26pid%3Dbl%26srcid%3DADGEESiVpcwjOGN2jd5y2FCT9e0zz9M1qwJ538b1vBDtYdHRkg6YcIZ87Q_DZ4Hxs24SfEaE7aQ9tmR79-1Az5Fuu3V2PROyX8KbUwN-C0ExlN_lEHxymX9EGFZEq7ArCOwQy-LdFM4c%26sig%3DAHIEtbRCvFTRRXiTIeHzDvZda2ZQ8Lzcxw&ei=5aNdS9rCGpGuNo2wnIYP&sa=X&oi=gview&resnum=5&ct=other&ved=0CBoQxQEwBA&usg=AFQjCNHTx4ElM7-fhLY6TlNv9WDASrnsYQ http://www.google.com/url?q=http://docs.google.com/viewer%3F... EDIT: You'll also note that the document I provided shows the National Association of Colleges & Employers (NACE) average right around $60k.

mfukar 17y ago
Averages don't reflect skew. Standard deviation does. Where is it in the numbers you cited? Nowhere. Neither we have any data from the article. So I call BS on you both. :-)
- tsally 17y ago
  I wouldn't be at all surprised if the data are skewed. A programmer in the bottom 25 percentile probably has a negative effect on your business. There's no way programmer pay should be a normal distribution because bad programmers have such horrible effects. But that's besides the point. I provided a cited document with reasonable numbers for discussion. The original article provides no data and does nothing to back up the claims made. The stronger obligation here is on the author. I don't have to disprove what he said, he has to prove himself right. What you should be calling BS on is the article. I still can't believe this thing isn't dead yet.

by tsally 17y ago

mfukar 17y ago

Averages don't reflect skew. Standard deviation does. Where is it in the numbers you cited? Nowhere. Neither we have any data from the article. So I call BS on you both. :-)

tsally 17y ago
I wouldn't be at all surprised if the data are skewed. A programmer in the bottom 25 percentile probably has a negative effect on your business. There's no way programmer pay should be a normal distribution because bad programmers have such horrible effects. But that's besides the point. I provided a cited document with reasonable numbers for discussion. The original article provides no data and does nothing to back up the claims made. The stronger obligation here is on the author. I don't have to disprove what he said, he has to prove himself right. What you should be calling BS on is the article. I still can't believe this thing isn't dead yet.