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Do take a look at my service - http://blogspam.net/ http://blogspam.net/ It is designed for realtime testing of blog-comments as spam/ham. There are a lot of

Do take a look at my service - http://blogspam.net/ http://blogspam.net/ It is designed for realtime testing of blog-comments as spam/ham. There are a lot of options, and it has been in use for a couple of years.

onli 11y ago
That looks nice. It is good to have another option than akismet for that, especially an open source one we could host ourself if necessary. And do I see that right that no API key is necessary? How do you protect yourself against spammers falsely classifying their comments as ham? I'm not sure I want to integrate that for ursprung. So far, the local methods were enough (and the bayes filter easy to provide via a gem), if that changes for me or others I will reconsider. But serendipity (http://www.s9y.org/ http://www.s9y.org/) should get a plugin for that. that is certainly used in places where more options would help. I'll look into it.
- stevekemp 11y ago
  I've had a few people self-host their own instances, and I like that this is possible. As you say this is key-free, which with the benefit of hindsight was perhaps a mistake, but nowadays I'm happy enough with it. Spammers would need to train their comments as ham for every domain - since if bayasian testing is done it is done on a per-site basis. I think that's probably the biggest reason why they've not bothered.
  - onli 11y ago
    > since if bayasian testing is done it is done on a per-site basis. Oh, I did not realize that. That at the same time is totally cool and will help to tailor the filter, and misses some potential by not having the global spam characteristics. I added the plugin to my todo-list. Not having to force the user to bother with an Api-key alone is worth the effort.
    - stevekemp 11y ago
      Yeah other tests are global, based on the shared submissions. But that one has to be site-specific, because some sites talk about cheap cameras, and others about medical-drugs. So the databases shouldn't pollute.

onli 11y ago

That looks nice. It is good to have another option than akismet for that, especially an open source one we could host ourself if necessary. And do I see that right that no API key is necessary? How do you protect yourself against spammers falsely classifying their comments as ham? I'm not sure I want to integrate that for ursprung. So far, the local methods were enough (and the bayes filter easy to provide via a gem), if that changes for me or others I will reconsider. But serendipity (http://www.s9y.org/ http://www.s9y.org/) should get a plugin for that. that is certainly used in places where more options would help. I'll look into it.

stevekemp 11y ago
I've had a few people self-host their own instances, and I like that this is possible. As you say this is key-free, which with the benefit of hindsight was perhaps a mistake, but nowadays I'm happy enough with it. Spammers would need to train their comments as ham for every domain - since if bayasian testing is done it is done on a per-site basis. I think that's probably the biggest reason why they've not bothered.
- onli 11y ago
  > since if bayasian testing is done it is done on a per-site basis. Oh, I did not realize that. That at the same time is totally cool and will help to tailor the filter, and misses some potential by not having the global spam characteristics. I added the plugin to my todo-list. Not having to force the user to bother with an Api-key alone is worth the effort.
  - stevekemp 11y ago
    Yeah other tests are global, based on the shared submissions. But that one has to be site-specific, because some sites talk about cheap cameras, and others about medical-drugs. So the databases shouldn't pollute.