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I think the number 1 thing that Ogg could do to stimulate adoption is to change its ridiculous name.

RK 17y ago
That same argument has been made about tons of companies/products, e.g. Google and Wii. Think about the fact that MP3 became a household word. Granted, it's an improvement over MPEG-1 Audio Layer 3, but it's not exactly catchy.
ZeroGravitas 17y ago
It boggles my mind that a video codec, whose name consists of two actual human names can be continually ragged on for its name when the competitors are things like mp3, AAC [+|HE] LC, MPEG-4 part 2, MPEG-4 Part 10, H.264, Advanced Video Codec. And those last three are all the same thing!
- sailormoon 17y ago
  All the rest are neutral technical names. And mp3 sounds kind of nice to my ear; easy to remember and rolls off the tongue. Ogg, on the other hand, is an actively stupid-sounding word, reminiscent of a particularly moronic caveman's grunt. Theora sounds OK but is ruined by the first part, and Vorbis is again a silly-sounding word. All told the names remind me of the worst sort of childish open source whimsicality. They paint the picture of a bunch of nerds so intent on demonstrating their lack of care about marketability that they deliberately name their project the stupidest thing they can think of. Well it worked - they certainly affected the marketability, and here we are, with the developer who stands up in a meeting and says "so, what about Ogg Vorbis support?" looks and sounds like an idiot. Well done. I don't even like having an .ogg file on my computer, the name annoys me so much. You might say names are irrelevant and maybe they are to you, but they're not to me.
  - ars 17y ago
    It's not appropriate to downmod someone for an opinion! If you disagree with something, post a reply. A downmod is for spam, and (sometimes) for wrong information.
    - robin_reala 17y ago
      Yeah, you’re right, and I apologise to the OP. Still, if the least of your worries is your name then you’re doing well. There are plenty of other problems that need to be fixed first and foremost before a rebranding campaign is considered.
    - ZeroGravitas 17y ago
      Maybe it's someone with the surname Ogg who doesn't like the opinion that their family name is "actively stupid-sounding word, reminiscent of a particularly moronic caveman's grunt"?
    - Hexstream 17y ago
      No, the flag option (accessible through reply) is for spam.

RK 17y ago

That same argument has been made about tons of companies/products, e.g. Google and Wii. Think about the fact that MP3 became a household word. Granted, it's an improvement over MPEG-1 Audio Layer 3, but it's not exactly catchy.

ZeroGravitas 17y ago

It boggles my mind that a video codec, whose name consists of two actual human names can be continually ragged on for its name when the competitors are things like mp3, AAC [+|HE] LC, MPEG-4 part 2, MPEG-4 Part 10, H.264, Advanced Video Codec. And those last three are all the same thing!

sailormoon 17y ago
All the rest are neutral technical names. And mp3 sounds kind of nice to my ear; easy to remember and rolls off the tongue. Ogg, on the other hand, is an actively stupid-sounding word, reminiscent of a particularly moronic caveman's grunt. Theora sounds OK but is ruined by the first part, and Vorbis is again a silly-sounding word. All told the names remind me of the worst sort of childish open source whimsicality. They paint the picture of a bunch of nerds so intent on demonstrating their lack of care about marketability that they deliberately name their project the stupidest thing they can think of. Well it worked - they certainly affected the marketability, and here we are, with the developer who stands up in a meeting and says "so, what about Ogg Vorbis support?" looks and sounds like an idiot. Well done. I don't even like having an .ogg file on my computer, the name annoys me so much. You might say names are irrelevant and maybe they are to you, but they're not to me.
- ars 17y ago
  It's not appropriate to downmod someone for an opinion! If you disagree with something, post a reply. A downmod is for spam, and (sometimes) for wrong information.
  - robin_reala 17y ago
    Yeah, you’re right, and I apologise to the OP. Still, if the least of your worries is your name then you’re doing well. There are plenty of other problems that need to be fixed first and foremost before a rebranding campaign is considered.
  - ZeroGravitas 17y ago
    Maybe it's someone with the surname Ogg who doesn't like the opinion that their family name is "actively stupid-sounding word, reminiscent of a particularly moronic caveman's grunt"?
  - Hexstream 17y ago
    No, the flag option (accessible through reply) is for spam.