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Even though it doesn't look like it, this is actually great news since this provides a path for Google et al to get out there and build broad customer comfort a
by not_that_noob 11y ago
Even though it doesn't look like it, this is actually great news since this provides a path for Google et al to get out there and build broad customer comfort around the technology.
And frankly I don't ever foresee driverless cars that don't have some form of manual ovveride - there will always be situations that won't make sense to the computer that make perfect sense to me.
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Edited to add this clarification, as people on HN seem overly ready to pick nits.
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The larger point is that humans will be humans and will never buy a car that will interfere with their freedom to do what they think is right at that moment.
And if you want a better example - maybe I want to speed to get to the hospital in an emergency. Maybe I want to block another car that's leaving the scene of a crime. You get the idea.
- tomschlick 11y ago> park in this no parking zone blocking traffic for 30 seconds while I run to get something. I think you just made an argument against manual override there...
- HeyLaughingBoy 11y ago...until you learn that the reason he had to stop in a no-parking zone for 30 seconds is because it was the shortest, safest route for a severely disabled person to get into the car.
- pc86 11y ago> park in this no parking zone blocking traffic for 30 seconds while I run to get something. No? Either park legally or go without. You are literally saying to everyone else "me saving 5 minutes by not having to park is more important than whatever it is you're doing."
- not_that_noob 11y agoYou realize it's a hypothetical right? The larger point is that humans will be humans and will never buy a car that will interfere with their freedom to do what they think is right at that moment. And if you want a better example - maybe I want to speed to get to the hospital in an emergency. Maybe I want to block another car that's leaving the scene of a crime. You get the idea.
- CamperBob2 11y agoSometimes rules need to be broken. I don't want to live in a society where it's impossible to break any rules, and neither do you. Those who disagree would probably be happier on some other site.
- knughit 11y agoDoes your microwave let you override its safety choices?
- CamperBob2 11y agoSure, if I stick a screwdriver into the door interlock, or peel off the choke ring seal. Why?
- mindslight 11y agoActually since the "driver" had not left the car, it would be considered "standing" not "parking", at least by MA law.
- knughit 11y agoOnly if the "driver" can decide to move out of the way if needed, without the passenger directing it
- MichaelApproved 11y ago> park in this no parking zone blocking traffic for 30 seconds while I run to get something. You're not thinking in driverless terms. You don't need to have the car block traffic while you grab something. The car can drive around the block and swing back around to pick you up or just go find a parking be spot elsewhere while you do what you need.
- hueving 11y agoUm, describing why you want to be an asshole to everyone else on the road isn't a good way to get people to agree with you.
- rgovind 11y agoActually, Most people relate to this behavior and rationalize it as just 30 seconds!
- c22 11y agoCitation? I suspect most people are somewhat conscientious drivers who operate their vehicles predictably most of the time. But this is just anecdotal from my own driving experience.
- not_that_noob 11y agoAre you a sentient neural network? If so, ask any of the humans that you can interact with. That's all the citation you will need.
- jcrawfordor 11y agoThere is definitely a cultural aspect to this. Where I used to live, it would be insane to leave your car in a traffic lane and if the cops saw it they would certainly have words for you, if they hadn't asked for a tow. In San Francisco, this is the normal way of doing business for many people, and while the left lane sucks because of people waiting for yielding left turns, the right lane sucks just as much because of all the cabs, uber/lyfts, delivery trucks, and random people doing god knows what who have left their car in the lane of traffic. I figure that anywhere where parking is very difficult to find, it's going to be more socially acceptable to double-park, even when doing so blocks traffic.
- nickodell 11y agoWhat about situations where the person buying the car is not the person driving the car, like a company car or a rental agency? I could see it being cheaper (for insurance purposes) to not allow a manual override.