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News flash, privacy is going to (keep) getting worse before it grts better. This is why the instant someone invents a totally secure and private way for me to e

News flash, privacy is going to (keep) getting worse before it grts better. This is why the instant someone invents a totally secure and private way for me to exist online, I'm going to dump a truckload of money down their coffers.

ljk 11y ago
> This is why the instant someone invents a totally secure and private way for me to exist online isn't that impossible due to all the backdoors in software, hardware, and even in the encryption?
- akerro 11y ago
  Are you watching the watchers? What if they didn't implement the backdoors?
  - rfreytag 11y ago
    Unless the software-firmware-hardware stack is totally secure then someone, and it needn't be a government, will implement backdoors where there is value in doing so.
mtgx 11y ago
> News flash, privacy is going to (keep) getting worse before it grts better. If by that you're saying we should just "wait it out" until it gets worse, then I'm not sure I agree. Unless you're expecting the US to go through a totalitarian regime and then through a revolution in the future, then I doubt it's going to "get better" if people don't try to fight these changes hard at all steps. As the surveillance people get more power it's only going to become easier for them to pass new changes like these. It's also going to get easier for them to ban good encryption in popular services, as well as open source projects that are "aiding the terrorists" (or whatever their excuse will be). It really doesn't matter how "silly" you think such excuses will be, if by then the judges can be compelled to agree with them. In fact, by then, you'd be lucky if the majority of the brainwashed population by the controlled mass media will even agree with you that such excuses are "silly", as they would most likely believe them. Just look at plenty of other countries around the world for such examples. I mean half of the US population probably still believes Snowden cooperated with Russia or is a Russian spy, thanks to the denigration campaign against him. Heck, 20% of HN probably believes that.

ljk 11y ago

> This is why the instant someone invents a totally secure and private way for me to exist online isn't that impossible due to all the backdoors in software, hardware, and even in the encryption?

akerro 11y ago
Are you watching the watchers? What if they didn't implement the backdoors?
- rfreytag 11y ago
  Unless the software-firmware-hardware stack is totally secure then someone, and it needn't be a government, will implement backdoors where there is value in doing so.

mtgx 11y ago

> News flash, privacy is going to (keep) getting worse before it grts better. If by that you're saying we should just "wait it out" until it gets worse, then I'm not sure I agree. Unless you're expecting the US to go through a totalitarian regime and then through a revolution in the future, then I doubt it's going to "get better" if people don't try to fight these changes hard at all steps. As the surveillance people get more power it's only going to become easier for them to pass new changes like these. It's also going to get easier for them to ban good encryption in popular services, as well as open source projects that are "aiding the terrorists" (or whatever their excuse will be). It really doesn't matter how "silly" you think such excuses will be, if by then the judges can be compelled to agree with them. In fact, by then, you'd be lucky if the majority of the brainwashed population by the controlled mass media will even agree with you that such excuses are "silly", as they would most likely believe them. Just look at plenty of other countries around the world for such examples. I mean half of the US population probably still believes Snowden cooperated with Russia or is a Russian spy, thanks to the denigration campaign against him. Heck, 20% of HN probably believes that.