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Any specifics on which congress-people are responsible for this?

by j_s 11y ago

flubert 11y ago
In the larger sense, aren't all the representatives responsible? Certainly the ones who voted for it. I know it is controversial, but they should be reading the bills before passing legislation. And the ones who didn't vote? What are we paying you for, if you aren't even showing up for your job? And even those who may have voted no seen to bear some responsibility, why didn't you raise an alarm? You should still be reading bills that have a high likely hodd of passing, even if your intention is to vote no.
- ChuckMcM 11y ago
  Of course, but some representative made the motion to include the text of the CISA bill part of the Omnibus bill, that should be on the record somewhere.
  - chishaku 11y ago
    Anyone have more clarity on this? I think since this is just a single bill, figuring out who included which part of the final text is a non-trivial task. However, since senior leadership of both parties are mostly responsible for getting this bill through, I think they ultimately are responsible for allowing the CISA portion to be included.
Shivetya 11y ago
likely go find the committee it came from, however this bill is being crafted with the President's blessing. don't think the Democrats in Congress agree to anything that he doesn't. There may be times where you can "see that one didn't" but its the same on both aisles, when the bet is sure they can afford to allow members who need a boost back home to "act" defiant. otherwise, the establishment gets what the establishment wants. Keep voting those incumbents back in and it will always be so. Hence one reason why the Republican Presidential side of the race is so interesting, those who aren't the system or are seen as bucking it are front and center. Sadly Bernie was quickly pushed to the side as there was never going to be a choice there

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Any specifics on which congress-people are responsible for this?

by j_s 11y ago

Any specifics on which congress-people are responsible for this?

flubert 11y ago
In the larger sense, aren't all the representatives responsible? Certainly the ones who voted for it. I know it is controversial, but they should be reading the bills before passing legislation. And the ones who didn't vote? What are we paying you for, if you aren't even showing up for your job? And even those who may have voted no seen to bear some responsibility, why didn't you raise an alarm? You should still be reading bills that have a high likely hodd of passing, even if your intention is to vote no.
- ChuckMcM 11y ago
  Of course, but some representative made the motion to include the text of the CISA bill part of the Omnibus bill, that should be on the record somewhere.
  - chishaku 11y ago
    Anyone have more clarity on this? I think since this is just a single bill, figuring out who included which part of the final text is a non-trivial task. However, since senior leadership of both parties are mostly responsible for getting this bill through, I think they ultimately are responsible for allowing the CISA portion to be included.
Shivetya 11y ago
likely go find the committee it came from, however this bill is being crafted with the President's blessing. don't think the Democrats in Congress agree to anything that he doesn't. There may be times where you can "see that one didn't" but its the same on both aisles, when the bet is sure they can afford to allow members who need a boost back home to "act" defiant. otherwise, the establishment gets what the establishment wants. Keep voting those incumbents back in and it will always be so. Hence one reason why the Republican Presidential side of the race is so interesting, those who aren't the system or are seen as bucking it are front and center. Sadly Bernie was quickly pushed to the side as there was never going to be a choice there