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> “Frankly, I think you should just work at Tesla,” Musk wrote to Hotz in an e-mail. “I’m happy to work out a multimillion-dollar bonus with a longer time horiz

> “Frankly, I think you should just work at Tesla,” Musk wrote to Hotz in an e-mail. “I’m happy to work out a multimillion-dollar bonus with a longer time horizon that pays out as soon as we discontinue Mobileye.” > “I appreciate the offer,” Hotz replied, “but like I’ve said, I’m not looking for a job. I’ll ping you when I crush Mobileye.” > Musk simply answered, “OK.” I have to agree with Elon here, Hotz is such a good fit there. But Hotz knows best, if he thinks he can take down Mobileye then he did the right decision, sucks that Tesla wouldn't back it. I'm sure other car companies would buy Hotz's software

ocdtrekkie 11y ago
I'd be far more interested in a piece of software for my car put out by Hotz than either Google or Tesla. Because the latter two are almost certainly going to keep it proprietary as heck. (Tesla has notoriously actually called people to ask them to stop tinkering with their car when they detect the interface has been connected to.)
- lintiness 11y ago
  you're sure to have a more interesting ride with hotz's software.
- testuser111 11y ago
  > "He says he’s come up with discoveries—most of which he refuses to disclose in detail"
  - ocdtrekkie 11y ago
    We'll see where things get in the future. If I wasn't sure where I was going yet, I might hold a few things close to the vest initially too. There's a short-term value too, where he has to ensure Google or Tesla or Uber doesn't become too dominant first. I really hope self-driving systems are an ecosystem, not a monoculture.
ProAm 11y ago
I dont think there is anyway that Hotz's and Musk's personalities get along well in any type of working relationship. They are both difficult people to deal with (from an outsiders perspective).
- Xcelerate 11y ago
  That's the funny thing about INTJs; they don't seem to get along well with each other. (*cue the preemptive disclaimer about MBTI being for entertainment)
  - yaboyhud 11y ago
    Hotz is an ENTP actually so the two of them would get along extraordinarily well, assuming ego's weren't in the way...
    - Xcelerate 11y ago
      Ah, indeed. I forgot the part where he mentions that he doesn't like living alone. You sure about the P though? His thoughts on his projects include lots of specific plans and he seems rather certain about his decisions (whereas P types tend to get caught in a quagmire of possibilities).
shostack 11y ago
Agree, but I'm sure Musk has a tremendous amount of respect for Hotz not only turning down millions to forge his own path, but also for simply executing. Hotz is putting his money where his mouth is and that is something Elon has a lot of first hand experience with.

ocdtrekkie 11y ago

I'd be far more interested in a piece of software for my car put out by Hotz than either Google or Tesla. Because the latter two are almost certainly going to keep it proprietary as heck. (Tesla has notoriously actually called people to ask them to stop tinkering with their car when they detect the interface has been connected to.)

lintiness 11y ago
you're sure to have a more interesting ride with hotz's software.
testuser111 11y ago
> "He says he’s come up with discoveries—most of which he refuses to disclose in detail"
- ocdtrekkie 11y ago
  We'll see where things get in the future. If I wasn't sure where I was going yet, I might hold a few things close to the vest initially too. There's a short-term value too, where he has to ensure Google or Tesla or Uber doesn't become too dominant first. I really hope self-driving systems are an ecosystem, not a monoculture.

ProAm 11y ago

I dont think there is anyway that Hotz's and Musk's personalities get along well in any type of working relationship. They are both difficult people to deal with (from an outsiders perspective).

Xcelerate 11y ago
That's the funny thing about INTJs; they don't seem to get along well with each other. (*cue the preemptive disclaimer about MBTI being for entertainment)
- yaboyhud 11y ago
  Hotz is an ENTP actually so the two of them would get along extraordinarily well, assuming ego's weren't in the way...
  - Xcelerate 11y ago
    Ah, indeed. I forgot the part where he mentions that he doesn't like living alone. You sure about the P though? His thoughts on his projects include lots of specific plans and he seems rather certain about his decisions (whereas P types tend to get caught in a quagmire of possibilities).

shostack 11y ago

Agree, but I'm sure Musk has a tremendous amount of respect for Hotz not only turning down millions to forge his own path, but also for simply executing. Hotz is putting his money where his mouth is and that is something Elon has a lot of first hand experience with.