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This is not a new phenomenon. In the law enforcement community it has been well recognized for many years that people who carried concealed weapons will often e
by slr555 11y ago
This is not a new phenomenon. In the law enforcement community it has been well recognized for many years that people who carried concealed weapons will often exhibit reduced arm swing on the gun side. The habit is driven by two issues. The first is training and a desire to keep the strong side arm indexed to the weapon for faster unholstering. The second is a reaction to the first and involves trying to unlearn the reduced arm swing, which more recently has been seen as a "tell" which may give warning to potential adversaries that one is armed and may be a potential threat. As a corollary people are now taught to be aware of reduced arm swing in others.
- nickbauman 11y agoWonder what they're packing? KGB assassins and recon agents are known to carry the PSS, with an almost completely silent report. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PSS_silent_pistol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PSS_silent_pistol
- DanielBMarkham 11y agoThanks for this link. A fascinating weapon. Would love to see a teardown and some range action. I didn't think such a thing would be possible. Sounds like something along the lines of a gunpowder-powered air gun -- the gunpowder contains the force, but it's the cylinder that ejects the round -- all the gases are captured. Very interesting!
- moron4hire 11y agoThat's pretty much exactly how it worked, with the piston internal to the cartridge, rather than the weapon http://worldweapon.info/patron-762x415-sp-4 http://worldweapon.info/patron-762x415-sp-4
- fein 11y agoProbably not a PSS. I can nearly guarantee it would be a Makarov, and only special forces have ever been issued Grachs. KGB is synonymous with the Makarov and to a lesser extent the Tokarev.
- showerst 11y agoIt's well known enough that the times did an infographic on it, which I learned about from one of Tufte's books: http://www.edwardtufte.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=0002w4 http://www.edwardtufte.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=0...
- chippy 11y agoHere, the arm with reduced swing is not on the gun side though. It's on the other side I think? Assuming the gun is holstered under the jacket close to the left breast. "..where trainees are taught to keep their right hand close to the chest " This appears to be a different thing than keeping the arm close to a waist holstered weapon
- slr555 11y agoReally hard to say with Secret Service where and what they are carrying. Likely a handgun strong side carry on the waist but also perhaps a PDW like an MP5 or equivalent in its most concealable iteration under the arm on the weak side. The hand position is pretty standard as a ready position for many fighting systems. Easy to go to a guard position or to initiate striking or pain compliance maneuvers from that stance. On a startle cue, from that position the hands will come up, at which point they can choose the appropriate response.
- mcguire 11y agoA similar phenomenon is the professional bodyguards typically have their hands close to the centerline of their bodies and at or above their waist. https://cryptome.org/info/usss-hands/usss-hands.htm https://cryptome.org/info/usss-hands/usss-hands.htm