I also wonder how successful such automated scanning attacks are against a simple login screen. Esp compared with the fact that on the big services people routi

I also wonder how successful such automated scanning attacks are against a simple login screen. Esp compared with the fact that on the big services people routinely call the helpdesk and manage to get passwords reset and all that so they get into accounts. That won't happen with your private ownCloud... With regards to 'usability first' vs 'security first' approaches, this is what 'security first' gets you: https://twitter.com/davide_paltri/status/676696685456826368 https://twitter.com/davide_paltri/status/676696685456826368 I rest my case ;-)