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> Oh no, highly skilled mostly white males experiencing temporary setbacks, Here comes the racist right here. people get rejected all the time even when they a

by aikah 11y ago

> Oh no, highly skilled mostly white males experiencing temporary setbacks, Here comes the racist right here. people get rejected all the time even when they are white, in fact, most of the people that get rejected for a job are white. I think you do not fool anyone anymore with this kind of narrative. It's tough for everybody, so don't make it about race or gender. Stop complaining and try harder. And FYI, I'm black.

minikites 11y ago
You ignored the part where I included "skilled". Of course it's hard for unskilled white people too, I'm complaining about the specific combination of white + male + technically skilled, who have no real reason to complain, as they are extremely likely to land a job and become wealthy.
- jhall1468 11y ago
  Fallacy of relative privation. It's one of the stupidest arguments I've ever heard. The one advantage of this particular fallacy, is you always just give it right back: > Who cares about underprivileged groups in the United States, when there are people in Africa that don't even have food. The fact that things happen to other people does not diminish the things relevant to my life.
  - minikites 11y ago
    That's not the best comparison because many people in the USA also don't have food: http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/sayonara-middle-class-22-stunning-pieces-of-evidence-that-show-the-middle-class-in-america-is-dying http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/sayonara-middle-cl... > #14 The number of Americans that are living in concentrated areas of high poverty has doubled since the year 2000. > #19 46 million Americans use food banks each year, and lines start forming at some U.S. food banks as early as 6:30 in the morning because people want to get something before the food supplies run out. This is all part of the point I'm making, America is not uniformly great or a land of opportunity.
huac 11y ago
The parent post is a bit over the top, but you miss the point too - it's insulting to expect minorities to listen to the stories of predominating white males succeeding despite rejection and ignore the injustices in society that can contribute. If it's hard for everyone, let's have more stories from those who 'look like' everyone. Claiming that 'most of the people who are rejected are white' as a reason to not need more minority stories ignores the relative chances - are similarly qualified white and minority developers hired at the same rate? This is similar to the model minority myth - "Asians work hard and are successful, so why aren't you?" Well, let's see some stories - and not just the token Latino dude.

by aikah 11y ago

minikites 11y ago

You ignored the part where I included "skilled". Of course it's hard for unskilled white people too, I'm complaining about the specific combination of white + male + technically skilled, who have no real reason to complain, as they are extremely likely to land a job and become wealthy.

jhall1468 11y ago
Fallacy of relative privation. It's one of the stupidest arguments I've ever heard. The one advantage of this particular fallacy, is you always just give it right back: > Who cares about underprivileged groups in the United States, when there are people in Africa that don't even have food. The fact that things happen to other people does not diminish the things relevant to my life.
- minikites 11y ago
  That's not the best comparison because many people in the USA also don't have food: http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/sayonara-middle-class-22-stunning-pieces-of-evidence-that-show-the-middle-class-in-america-is-dying http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/sayonara-middle-cl... > #14 The number of Americans that are living in concentrated areas of high poverty has doubled since the year 2000. > #19 46 million Americans use food banks each year, and lines start forming at some U.S. food banks as early as 6:30 in the morning because people want to get something before the food supplies run out. This is all part of the point I'm making, America is not uniformly great or a land of opportunity.

huac 11y ago

The parent post is a bit over the top, but you miss the point too - it's insulting to expect minorities to listen to the stories of predominating white males succeeding despite rejection and ignore the injustices in society that can contribute. If it's hard for everyone, let's have more stories from those who 'look like' everyone. Claiming that 'most of the people who are rejected are white' as a reason to not need more minority stories ignores the relative chances - are similarly qualified white and minority developers hired at the same rate? This is similar to the model minority myth - "Asians work hard and are successful, so why aren't you?" Well, let's see some stories - and not just the token Latino dude.