4 ms·

Let's start by not stressing race/gender

minikites 11y ago
We still live in a very racist society, how is that helped by pretending otherwise? http://www.nber.org/papers/w9873 http://www.nber.org/papers/w9873 > The results show significant discrimination against African-American names: White names receive 50 percent more callbacks for interviews. We also find that race affects the benefits of a better resume. > We find little evidence that our results are driven by employers inferring something other than race, such as social class, from the names. These results suggest that racial discrimination is still a prominent feature of the labor market. And as for gender: http://phys.org/news/2006-05-female-name-chat-users-malicious-messages.html http://phys.org/news/2006-05-female-name-chat-users-maliciou... > A study by the University of Maryland's A. James Clark School of Engineering found that chat room participants with female usernames received 25 times more threatening and/or sexually explicit private messages than those with male or ambiguous usernames. > Female usernames, on average, received 163 malicious private messages a day in the study. These are two narrow examples of course, but pretending everyone has a fair shot is extremely naïve.
- jhall1468 11y ago
  > We still live in a very racist society, how is that helped by pretending otherwise? No one is pretending anything. You are the one that brought race into this. And your evidence of the problem is to post studies that didn't even study the actual industry we are discussing? > These are two narrow examples of course This is the first relevant thing you've said. So narrow, they don't even touch on the subject at hand.
  - minikites 11y ago
    You think the tech industry is more egalitarian/meritocratic than employment in general? The study says: > The amount of discrimination is uniform across occupations and industries. If you have evidence that the tech industry is different, please post it, I would be interested to see it.

We still live in a very racist society, how is that helped by pretending otherwise? http://www.nber.org/papers/w9873 http://www.nber.org/papers/w9873 > The results show significant discrimination against African-American names: White names receive 50 percent more callbacks for interviews. We also find that race affects the benefits of a better resume. > We find little evidence that our results are driven by employers inferring something other than race, such as social class, from the names. These results suggest that racial discrimination is still a prominent feature of the labor market. And as for gender: http://phys.org/news/2006-05-female-name-chat-users-malicious-messages.html http://phys.org/news/2006-05-female-name-chat-users-maliciou... > A study by the University of Maryland's A. James Clark School of Engineering found that chat room participants with female usernames received 25 times more threatening and/or sexually explicit private messages than those with male or ambiguous usernames. > Female usernames, on average, received 163 malicious private messages a day in the study. These are two narrow examples of course, but pretending everyone has a fair shot is extremely naïve.

jhall1468 11y ago
> We still live in a very racist society, how is that helped by pretending otherwise? No one is pretending anything. You are the one that brought race into this. And your evidence of the problem is to post studies that didn't even study the actual industry we are discussing? > These are two narrow examples of course This is the first relevant thing you've said. So narrow, they don't even touch on the subject at hand.
- minikites 11y ago
  You think the tech industry is more egalitarian/meritocratic than employment in general? The study says: > The amount of discrimination is uniform across occupations and industries. If you have evidence that the tech industry is different, please post it, I would be interested to see it.