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I'm a huge MGS fan since since the PS1, but I'm impartial to what happened. MGS is a huge icon in the video game space, but it never was a commercial success fo

by ethana 11y ago

I'm a huge MGS fan since since the PS1, but I'm impartial to what happened. MGS is a huge icon in the video game space, but it never was a commercial success for Konami. The tension between H.K and Konami only got worse when Hideo keep taking longer time to make each successive MGS games. Maybe it's his perfectionist nature, but Konami wasn't able to make any of their investments back. The rest is history. Let's hope Sony will be able to shoulder H.K's future venture with more success.

seivan 11y ago
From what I understand Konami always made their money back and then some. I could be wrong here.
aikah 11y ago
> it never was a commercial success for Konami. AFAIK MGS2 WAS a commercial success ( > 6.000.000 copies sold in 2001 ), if it wasn't the case the Konami would have ditched that franchise a long time ago. It's true that both MGS4 and MGS5 went over budget, but MGS5 prologue was sold separately and had a moderate commercial success. No what happened is that Konami decided Patchinko machines and Mobile Games with micro-transactions were more profitable than developping AAA Games(and they are in Japan) so they "fired" Kojima and its team earlier this year, making them unable to finish the game as they wanted.
hkmurakami 11y ago
>The rest is history. Let's hope Sony will be able to shoulder H.K's future venture with more success. Hoping for an eventual arrangement like they have with Polyphony Digital and GT.
swang 11y ago
What on earth are you talking about? The MGS series was a big money maker for Konami. Hint: You don't get to make 5 major console games (+Ground Zeroes), 4 portable games (2 Acid series, POOPS :D, and Peace Walker) if the games didn't make money. Konami decided to go make pachinko games, that's fine. But in the process they fucked over Kojima, and screwed lots of fans over in MGSV.
remnant5 11y ago
>Maybe it's his perfectionist nature, but Konami wasn't able to make any of their investments back. What the hell are you talking about? MGS5 made 179 million on launch day, at a budget of 80 million. https://www.vg247.com/2015/10/15/metal-gear-solid-5-made-twice-as-much-as-avengers-age-of-ultron-on-launch-day/ https://www.vg247.com/2015/10/15/metal-gear-solid-5-made-twi... The only complaint that Konami is going to have is that they didn't make their money back fast enough, when they could've produced countless shitty free-to-play titles instead of MGS5. With Mr. Kojima gone, that's the future we all can look forward to now.
tehwebguy 11y ago
I wonder how much Sony put in for the exclusives over the years.

by ethana 11y ago

seivan 11y ago

From what I understand Konami always made their money back and then some. I could be wrong here.

aikah 11y ago

> it never was a commercial success for Konami. AFAIK MGS2 WAS a commercial success ( > 6.000.000 copies sold in 2001 ), if it wasn't the case the Konami would have ditched that franchise a long time ago. It's true that both MGS4 and MGS5 went over budget, but MGS5 prologue was sold separately and had a moderate commercial success. No what happened is that Konami decided Patchinko machines and Mobile Games with micro-transactions were more profitable than developping AAA Games(and they are in Japan) so they "fired" Kojima and its team earlier this year, making them unable to finish the game as they wanted.

hkmurakami 11y ago

>The rest is history. Let's hope Sony will be able to shoulder H.K's future venture with more success. Hoping for an eventual arrangement like they have with Polyphony Digital and GT.

swang 11y ago

What on earth are you talking about? The MGS series was a big money maker for Konami. Hint: You don't get to make 5 major console games (+Ground Zeroes), 4 portable games (2 Acid series, POOPS :D, and Peace Walker) if the games didn't make money. Konami decided to go make pachinko games, that's fine. But in the process they fucked over Kojima, and screwed lots of fans over in MGSV.

remnant5 11y ago

>Maybe it's his perfectionist nature, but Konami wasn't able to make any of their investments back. What the hell are you talking about? MGS5 made 179 million on launch day, at a budget of 80 million. https://www.vg247.com/2015/10/15/metal-gear-solid-5-made-twice-as-much-as-avengers-age-of-ultron-on-launch-day/ https://www.vg247.com/2015/10/15/metal-gear-solid-5-made-twi... The only complaint that Konami is going to have is that they didn't make their money back fast enough, when they could've produced countless shitty free-to-play titles instead of MGS5. With Mr. Kojima gone, that's the future we all can look forward to now.

tehwebguy 11y ago

I wonder how much Sony put in for the exclusives over the years.