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Assume you are talking about OVH or Hetzer? Those companies have their issues too.

by hackerboos 11y ago

frik 11y ago
Are there other well known dedicated hosters beside OVH in North America?
- hyperknot 11y ago
  reliablesite.net, 100tb.com (bit expensive, unless you need the bandwidth) are two good ones.
lqdc13 11y ago
Yeah, those two. There are some Latvian ones as well. What are some of the issues you've ran into with them? Genuinely curious.
- noir_lord 11y ago
  I used Hetzner a few years ago, in the space of 6 weeks I had 3-4 times I couldn't login because the network was saturated under a "DDoS", I had random and sporadic network drops even when they said they weren't having problems. Latency was an absolute disaster even typing characters via SSH was horribly slow. The management platform was hilariously bad (they where still sending me notification emails about 9mths after I cancelled). We went back to linode for everything after that, for our needs it hits the sweet spot between cost and reliability (back then DO was new and had it's own issues, largely due to a flaky network). Now I'd possibly consider DO for compute or job servers but I think I'd still use Linode for anything that wasn't running on my own hardware, I've been a customer with them for something like 6 years and they've never let me down.
  - lqdc13 11y ago
    Makes sense. I've used Hetzner for 2 years now for a lot for personal projects, and I do get slowish SSH sometimes, but that's what Mosh is for. Also, it's much better for European customers than for US ones. They are also the only service I can afford for personal projects that requires a lot of RAM. Basically, any machine learning with a ton of features. Here's a test with latency: URL tested: http://rerecommender.com Test performed from: New York, NY Test performed at: 2015-12-18 04:36:44 (GMT +00:00) Resolved As: 188.40.128.87 Status: OK Response Time: 0.306 sec DNS: 0.075 sec Connect: 0.115 sec Redirect: 0.000 sec First byte: 0.116 sec Last byte: 0.001 sec Size: 7688 bytes
mark_lee 11y ago
OVH puts a ban on business from mainland China. It`s kind of weird. You maybe hate those harassment, and you want to shame mainland Chinese(because almost all other countries, even Hong Kong SAR and Taiwan are accepted). But a) this is business, you should not be that emotional, there are good people in China too. Doing business in this way may only humiliate yourselves. b) you can not just ignore China market, it`s a market no company should overlook.
- lqdc13 11y ago
  Could it be because of a lot of spam originates in China? So some Chinese residents buy the servers to spam others and then they have to clear blacklists for their server IPs?
  - mark_lee 11y ago
    No offence, fighting spam in that way is either an IQ problem or an EQ problem. Banning mainland China business completely for couple of years to clear blacklists? Brilliant. Actually you can buy any servers from EC2, linode, DO freely from China anytime. How can they deal with this issue?
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Assume you are talking about OVH or Hetzer? Those companies have their issues too.

frik 11y ago

Are there other well known dedicated hosters beside OVH in North America?

hyperknot 11y ago
reliablesite.net, 100tb.com (bit expensive, unless you need the bandwidth) are two good ones.

lqdc13 11y ago

Yeah, those two. There are some Latvian ones as well. What are some of the issues you've ran into with them? Genuinely curious.

noir_lord 11y ago
I used Hetzner a few years ago, in the space of 6 weeks I had 3-4 times I couldn't login because the network was saturated under a "DDoS", I had random and sporadic network drops even when they said they weren't having problems. Latency was an absolute disaster even typing characters via SSH was horribly slow. The management platform was hilariously bad (they where still sending me notification emails about 9mths after I cancelled). We went back to linode for everything after that, for our needs it hits the sweet spot between cost and reliability (back then DO was new and had it's own issues, largely due to a flaky network). Now I'd possibly consider DO for compute or job servers but I think I'd still use Linode for anything that wasn't running on my own hardware, I've been a customer with them for something like 6 years and they've never let me down.
- lqdc13 11y ago
  Makes sense. I've used Hetzner for 2 years now for a lot for personal projects, and I do get slowish SSH sometimes, but that's what Mosh is for. Also, it's much better for European customers than for US ones. They are also the only service I can afford for personal projects that requires a lot of RAM. Basically, any machine learning with a ton of features. Here's a test with latency: URL tested: http://rerecommender.com Test performed from: New York, NY Test performed at: 2015-12-18 04:36:44 (GMT +00:00) Resolved As: 188.40.128.87 Status: OK Response Time: 0.306 sec DNS: 0.075 sec Connect: 0.115 sec Redirect: 0.000 sec First byte: 0.116 sec Last byte: 0.001 sec Size: 7688 bytes

mark_lee 11y ago

OVH puts a ban on business from mainland China. It`s kind of weird. You maybe hate those harassment, and you want to shame mainland Chinese(because almost all other countries, even Hong Kong SAR and Taiwan are accepted). But a) this is business, you should not be that emotional, there are good people in China too. Doing business in this way may only humiliate yourselves. b) you can not just ignore China market, it`s a market no company should overlook.

lqdc13 11y ago
Could it be because of a lot of spam originates in China? So some Chinese residents buy the servers to spam others and then they have to clear blacklists for their server IPs?
- mark_lee 11y ago
  No offence, fighting spam in that way is either an IQ problem or an EQ problem. Banning mainland China business completely for couple of years to clear blacklists? Brilliant. Actually you can buy any servers from EC2, linode, DO freely from China anytime. How can they deal with this issue?
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