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I would, because I'm on the inside. There are even many CS degrees that don't require a course in algorithms. You have to remember that most CS degrees come fro

by j2kun 11y ago

I would, because I'm on the inside. There are even many CS degrees that don't require a course in algorithms. You have to remember that most CS degrees come from public/state universities, not Stanford and MIT. And CS students at public/state universities are largely mathphobic.

pm90 11y ago
That's a very broad generalization. There are many public/state universities with amazing CS research and programs (e.g. UC Berkeley) that are very math-heavy.
- Ar-Curunir 11y ago
  As a student at UC Berkeley, students need to study at most linear algebra and multivariablr calc to major in CS/EECS.
  - jsprogrammer 11y ago
    No Boolean algebra, probability, or statistics?
learc83 11y ago
>There are even many CS degrees that don't require a course in algorithms. What CS degree doesn't require a course in algorithms? I assume there are some Software Engineering degrees that don't, but how can you spend 4 years studying computer science without an algorithms course? >And CS students at public/state universities are largely mathphobic. I agree that most CS students try to avoid relatively proof heavy classes like Automata. But almost all CS courses require up to Calc 2 and discrete math, so I'm sure the truly "mathphobic" students would have majored in CIS or something else. I also don't think this has anything to do with Standford MIT vs public universities. Students at those Universities would avoid elective proof heavy classes as well. I did undergrad at a relatively unknown state school, and now I'm in grad school in a top ten program. I know plenty of people from both schools who avoid rigorous proof heavy classes when they can.
- j2kun 11y ago
  Here is one such program, North Carolina State University, which requires a basic theory course (automata) but no algorithms course. https://www.csc.ncsu.edu/academics/undergrad/semester.php https://www.csc.ncsu.edu/academics/undergrad/semester.php There are many more X state universities that churn out computer science degrees than the top schools.
  - jsprogrammer 11y ago
    CSC 316 appears to be the main algorithms course (recommended 4th semester course).
gleenn 11y ago
Pretty big generalization there. There are 20+ CSU's and 10 UC's in California. You really going to paint 30 schools with such broad strokes in one state alone, plus the rest of the US?

by j2kun 11y ago

pm90 11y ago

That's a very broad generalization. There are many public/state universities with amazing CS research and programs (e.g. UC Berkeley) that are very math-heavy.

Ar-Curunir 11y ago
As a student at UC Berkeley, students need to study at most linear algebra and multivariablr calc to major in CS/EECS.
- jsprogrammer 11y ago
  No Boolean algebra, probability, or statistics?

learc83 11y ago

>There are even many CS degrees that don't require a course in algorithms. What CS degree doesn't require a course in algorithms? I assume there are some Software Engineering degrees that don't, but how can you spend 4 years studying computer science without an algorithms course? >And CS students at public/state universities are largely mathphobic. I agree that most CS students try to avoid relatively proof heavy classes like Automata. But almost all CS courses require up to Calc 2 and discrete math, so I'm sure the truly "mathphobic" students would have majored in CIS or something else. I also don't think this has anything to do with Standford MIT vs public universities. Students at those Universities would avoid elective proof heavy classes as well. I did undergrad at a relatively unknown state school, and now I'm in grad school in a top ten program. I know plenty of people from both schools who avoid rigorous proof heavy classes when they can.

j2kun 11y ago
Here is one such program, North Carolina State University, which requires a basic theory course (automata) but no algorithms course. https://www.csc.ncsu.edu/academics/undergrad/semester.php https://www.csc.ncsu.edu/academics/undergrad/semester.php There are many more X state universities that churn out computer science degrees than the top schools.
- jsprogrammer 11y ago
  CSC 316 appears to be the main algorithms course (recommended 4th semester course).

gleenn 11y ago

Pretty big generalization there. There are 20+ CSU's and 10 UC's in California. You really going to paint 30 schools with such broad strokes in one state alone, plus the rest of the US?