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While you can wait until it breaks and then switch to the developer version, it is just delay of execution. For my main browser that has all the plugins I used

by wila 11y ago

While you can wait until it breaks and then switch to the developer version, it is just delay of execution. For my main browser that has all the plugins I used to appreciate in Firefox I switched to Pale Moon [1]. On other machines I continue to use Firefox. Very happy with Pale Moon, works perfect -including all my old plugins- and I'm no longer afraid that features I depend on will stop working because the mozilla dev's decided to try and change firefox into chrome. [1] http://www.palemoon.org http://www.palemoon.org

Nadya 11y ago
Quick note: Pale Moon removed Tab Groups because it was unpopular. The add-on meant to replace it is hacky/buggy/fails to restore tabs. If your workflow depends heavily on tab groups, Pale Moon is not the answer. If you don't care for tab groups - my experiences with Pale Moon were great! I can imagine it's remained as awesome since I stopped using it (which is when they removed tab groups...) E: Also it's totally possible the add-on has been fixed. But I don't remember anyone maintaining it, it was just segmented away from the browser and made into an add-on without development/maintenance. It's possible that has changed and the above issue is no longer relevant.
- wila 11y ago
  Actually the ability to be able to continue to use tab groups was one of the main reasons I changed over to Pale Moon about a month ago. Firefox has plans to remove tab groups. [1] Haven't had any issue with it so far, but I might be using tab groups in another way as you or as you say they might have ironed out the issues you bumped into. You are correct that tab groups is offered as an add-on. Had no problem installing it, it even kept all the tabs I had in tab groups in Firefox. For me the transition from Firefox to Pale Moon was very smooth. [1] http://www.ghacks.net/2015/11/08/mozilla-to-remove-tab-groups-panorama-in-firefox-45/ http://www.ghacks.net/2015/11/08/mozilla-to-remove-tab-group...
  - Nadya 11y ago
    Are your tab groups remembered after a browser crash? YouTube has a tendency of crashing Firefox/FF forks (incl. Waterfox and Pale Moon). I'm forced to restart maybe once every other or every third week after YouTube hangs the browser. When this happens I lose all of my tabs which is completely unacceptable for me. Tabs were also lost when updating the browser which was the straw that broke the camel's back and caused me to ditch Pale Moon and return to Firefox. If those two issues have been fixed I'd likely very quickly switch back to Pale Moon. As an aside, I'm aware FF is removing them as well in the near future. I've already frozen myself on FF 40 for other reasons. Before anyone mentions - I'm aware of the potential security risks of doing so and have decided given my internet browsing habits it is very low risk. Low enough that I don't even consider publicly announcing my use of FF40 to be a significant security threat.
    - wila 11y ago
      I've not had a browser crash in a long time. But -if it helps- the tab groups are remembered after I kill firefox from Windows task manager. Also no problem on updating Pale Moon. But I've got to admit that there was only one update since I switched over to Pale Moon.

by wila 11y ago

Nadya 11y ago

Quick note: Pale Moon removed Tab Groups because it was unpopular. The add-on meant to replace it is hacky/buggy/fails to restore tabs. If your workflow depends heavily on tab groups, Pale Moon is not the answer. If you don't care for tab groups - my experiences with Pale Moon were great! I can imagine it's remained as awesome since I stopped using it (which is when they removed tab groups...) E: Also it's totally possible the add-on has been fixed. But I don't remember anyone maintaining it, it was just segmented away from the browser and made into an add-on without development/maintenance. It's possible that has changed and the above issue is no longer relevant.

wila 11y ago
Actually the ability to be able to continue to use tab groups was one of the main reasons I changed over to Pale Moon about a month ago. Firefox has plans to remove tab groups. [1] Haven't had any issue with it so far, but I might be using tab groups in another way as you or as you say they might have ironed out the issues you bumped into. You are correct that tab groups is offered as an add-on. Had no problem installing it, it even kept all the tabs I had in tab groups in Firefox. For me the transition from Firefox to Pale Moon was very smooth. [1] http://www.ghacks.net/2015/11/08/mozilla-to-remove-tab-groups-panorama-in-firefox-45/ http://www.ghacks.net/2015/11/08/mozilla-to-remove-tab-group...
- Nadya 11y ago
  Are your tab groups remembered after a browser crash? YouTube has a tendency of crashing Firefox/FF forks (incl. Waterfox and Pale Moon). I'm forced to restart maybe once every other or every third week after YouTube hangs the browser. When this happens I lose all of my tabs which is completely unacceptable for me. Tabs were also lost when updating the browser which was the straw that broke the camel's back and caused me to ditch Pale Moon and return to Firefox. If those two issues have been fixed I'd likely very quickly switch back to Pale Moon. As an aside, I'm aware FF is removing them as well in the near future. I've already frozen myself on FF 40 for other reasons. Before anyone mentions - I'm aware of the potential security risks of doing so and have decided given my internet browsing habits it is very low risk. Low enough that I don't even consider publicly announcing my use of FF40 to be a significant security threat.
  - wila 11y ago
    I've not had a browser crash in a long time. But -if it helps- the tab groups are remembered after I kill firefox from Windows task manager. Also no problem on updating Pale Moon. But I've got to admit that there was only one update since I switched over to Pale Moon.