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Thank you for your perspective. I am very wary of treading the "mainstream medicine doesn't know shit and drugs are bad" path, and for that reason I very much a

Thank you for your perspective. I am very wary of treading the "mainstream medicine doesn't know shit and drugs are bad" path, and for that reason I very much appreciate a contrary view. My plan is to give it a few months and see if fixing some of my sub optimal lifestyle makes a difference or not. I figure if I fix my sleep, cut the sugar and other crap and if necessary change my SFA to PUFA ratio and it doesn't get much better in 6 months then I'll have to take the pills. But I owe it to myself to try first.

pkaye 11y ago
How is you tryglyceride levels? That should be easy to change with just a diet alone. I believe it is due to consuming excess calories than you really need.
- boothead 11y ago
  Trigs were fine. Overconsumption is certainly one more thing for me to look at.
  - teslabox 11y ago
    Broda Barnes book [1] says, iirc, that high cholesterol levels are basically diagnostic of hypothyroidism. Usually people's superficial thyroid lab #'s look fine (TSH), but their body is not properly activating T4 -> T3. [1] https://books.google.com/books?id=TJXf2ZqoxUIC https://books.google.com/books?id=TJXf2ZqoxUIC
    - boothead 11y ago
      Yes, when I demured on the statin it occurred to my doc to check thyroid function (seems the wrong way round to me). My levels were fine.
      - mendelsd 11y ago
        Define "fine"... reference levels of TSH for example are controversial [0]. The HUNT study in Norway (which followed 25,000 healthy Norwegians for 8 years) found death rates 69% higher amongst women with TSH 2.5-3.5 mIU/L than amongst those with TSH 0.5-1.4 mIU/L [1] (via [2]). [0] http://tpauk.com/main/the-tsh-reference-range-wars/ http://tpauk.com/main/the-tsh-reference-range-wars/ [1] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18443261?dopt=AbstractPlus http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18443261?dopt=AbstractPlu... [2] http://perfecthealthdiet.com/2010/07/thyroid-more-evidence-that-%E2%80%9Cnormal%E2%80%9D-is-unhealthy/ http://perfecthealthdiet.com/2010/07/thyroid-more-evidence-t...
    - pkaye 11y ago
      Are there some tests we can do to identify this issue?
gmarx 11y ago
Fair enough

pkaye 11y ago

How is you tryglyceride levels? That should be easy to change with just a diet alone. I believe it is due to consuming excess calories than you really need.

boothead 11y ago
Trigs were fine. Overconsumption is certainly one more thing for me to look at.
- teslabox 11y ago
  Broda Barnes book [1] says, iirc, that high cholesterol levels are basically diagnostic of hypothyroidism. Usually people's superficial thyroid lab #'s look fine (TSH), but their body is not properly activating T4 -> T3. [1] https://books.google.com/books?id=TJXf2ZqoxUIC https://books.google.com/books?id=TJXf2ZqoxUIC
  - boothead 11y ago
    Yes, when I demured on the statin it occurred to my doc to check thyroid function (seems the wrong way round to me). My levels were fine.
    - mendelsd 11y ago
      Define "fine"... reference levels of TSH for example are controversial [0]. The HUNT study in Norway (which followed 25,000 healthy Norwegians for 8 years) found death rates 69% higher amongst women with TSH 2.5-3.5 mIU/L than amongst those with TSH 0.5-1.4 mIU/L [1] (via [2]). [0] http://tpauk.com/main/the-tsh-reference-range-wars/ http://tpauk.com/main/the-tsh-reference-range-wars/ [1] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18443261?dopt=AbstractPlus http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18443261?dopt=AbstractPlu... [2] http://perfecthealthdiet.com/2010/07/thyroid-more-evidence-that-%E2%80%9Cnormal%E2%80%9D-is-unhealthy/ http://perfecthealthdiet.com/2010/07/thyroid-more-evidence-t...
  - pkaye 11y ago
    Are there some tests we can do to identify this issue?

gmarx 11y ago

Fair enough