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I agree with everything you have said. My comment may have been a manifestation of my fear that HN is becoming increasing politicized with dynamics that favor a

I agree with everything you have said. My comment may have been a manifestation of my fear that HN is becoming increasing politicized with dynamics that favor arguments over conversations. However, you may be -- and I believe you are -- correct regarding the utility of story. Each time this topic is explored, it tends to move to a slightly different region of the conversational search space: new data, new movements, new ideas. My comment was not without merit; however, it was misplaced. (The weak irony is that, as someone who thinks the IPCC does "bad science" (TM), I found this story self-gratifying.)

DanielBMarkham 17y ago
I agree. I think HN is moving towards people talking past each other and pointless posturing, A lot of it, no doubt, is people consuming political material from other media and then sort of regurgitating it here. That's great if you can barf up more than just an arguing talking head. It's not so cool if you all have is rancor and mindless talking points. I find that I have to be the most careful about the stories I agree with. That's when the critical thinking shields are down and bad stuff slips through. As a defense to the HN-is-going-to-heck problem? I just don't read HN comments that much any more. I use my aggregation site to view all major tech sites and browse stories from there (shameless plug: http://project-management-methodologies.net/ http://project-management-methodologies.net/) HN is still a great place to hang out with like-minded technical guys working on startups. It's just moved from a small coffee house to a large stadium, and the crowd has changed from people wanting to make things people like to a smorgasbord of folks in all kinds of situations. It's a lot noisier and the chit-chat isn't as focused as it used to be. I still like it, but I find the downside of engaging in idle non-focused chatter to be bigger than the upside of learning something that can make a difference in the world. Didn't used to be that way, sadly
- chasingsparks 17y ago
  The provided shameless plug is not working for me. I'm getting an HTTP 200 response with content length 0. It's just moved from a small coffee house to a large stadium, and the crowd has changed from people wanting to make things people like to a smorgasbord of folks in all kinds of situations. Well put.
  - DanielBMarkham 17y ago
    Up now. I had some weird behavior that appeared just after I posted that link. I posted an Ask HN article. But a few minutes later, the problems disappeared. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1073806 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1073806 It's not a commercial site -- just a notebook computer doing some scrapes and updating a static html file. But it's useful (to me) to quickly scan hundreds of articles as fast as possible instead of loitering on any one site.

DanielBMarkham 17y ago

I agree. I think HN is moving towards people talking past each other and pointless posturing, A lot of it, no doubt, is people consuming political material from other media and then sort of regurgitating it here. That's great if you can barf up more than just an arguing talking head. It's not so cool if you all have is rancor and mindless talking points. I find that I have to be the most careful about the stories I agree with. That's when the critical thinking shields are down and bad stuff slips through. As a defense to the HN-is-going-to-heck problem? I just don't read HN comments that much any more. I use my aggregation site to view all major tech sites and browse stories from there (shameless plug: http://project-management-methodologies.net/ http://project-management-methodologies.net/) HN is still a great place to hang out with like-minded technical guys working on startups. It's just moved from a small coffee house to a large stadium, and the crowd has changed from people wanting to make things people like to a smorgasbord of folks in all kinds of situations. It's a lot noisier and the chit-chat isn't as focused as it used to be. I still like it, but I find the downside of engaging in idle non-focused chatter to be bigger than the upside of learning something that can make a difference in the world. Didn't used to be that way, sadly

chasingsparks 17y ago
The provided shameless plug is not working for me. I'm getting an HTTP 200 response with content length 0. It's just moved from a small coffee house to a large stadium, and the crowd has changed from people wanting to make things people like to a smorgasbord of folks in all kinds of situations. Well put.
- DanielBMarkham 17y ago
  Up now. I had some weird behavior that appeared just after I posted that link. I posted an Ask HN article. But a few minutes later, the problems disappeared. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1073806 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1073806 It's not a commercial site -- just a notebook computer doing some scrapes and updating a static html file. But it's useful (to me) to quickly scan hundreds of articles as fast as possible instead of loitering on any one site.