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It comes down to diet. My LDL is 66 and my HDL is 75. I don't eat eggs, meat, or cheese. Basically, nothing that has cholesterol. My numbers will probably be e

It comes down to diet. My LDL is 66 and my HDL is 75. I don't eat eggs, meat, or cheese. Basically, nothing that has cholesterol. My numbers will probably be even better this year. I have looked at /r/keto and /r/paleo. Their cholesterol numbers aren't good.

LunaSea 11y ago
I've stopped eating all together and my stats are out of this world.
- kaeluka 11y ago
  Why the snark?
boothead 11y ago
The problem is now that I'm not even sure whether I should agree with what a "good" or "bad" number is for LDL or TC. The recommended number seems to fall every few years, and I'm unsure how much of that is based on good research or industry pressure or what.
dspillett 11y ago
Recent research suggests that cholesterol directly in food isn't a major problem because most of it passes through the digestive system untouched. The problem is actually cholesterol produced by the body using other substances. 80% or more of the cholesterol in your body is produced by your body, no more than 20% of it comes from your diet unless your diet is particularly unbalanced in that manner. The reason cholesterol in people's diet got the blame is that there is often a strong correlation between the foods containing substances that do cause increased cholesterol in the body and foods containing significant amounts of cholesterol, and a similar correlation between certain lifestyle options that are risk factors for heart problems generally and eating those foods. So blindly reducing cholesterol in your diet is not useful and may lead you into a false sense of security - you could still be taking in the other stuff and living your life in a way that will encourage the body to produce too much cholesterol itself.
- coldcode 11y ago
  It's not even all that recent, I took some nutritional biochem classes in the late 70's and the professor said repeatedly that dietary cholesterol was not a big factor in what was in your blood as the molecule was too big to pass through the intestinal wall. What is made by the body (generally from a fatty diet) matters.
- atomical 11y ago
  http://nutritionfacts.org/video/how-the-egg-board-designs-misleading-studies/ http://nutritionfacts.org/video/how-the-egg-board-designs-mi... "The cholesterol in eggs not only worsens the effects of saturated fat, but has a dramatic effect on the level of cholesterol and fat circulating in our bloodstream during the day." I can't reply to the comment below me, but he does cite all the studies in his videos.
  - boothead 11y ago
    I just had a click round that website. It's just the kind of place that I avoid like the plague. It seems hopelessly biased, as does the author. I didn't come across one link to an scientific study, and it was immediately obvious that there's a serious anti animal products agenda going on and no disclaimer. Avoid.
    - noondip 11y ago
      It's quite apparent you didn't actually look through the website, or you are just a low-carb shill (if so, please see http://www.atkinsexposed.org http://www.atkinsexposed.org - the same dietary nonsense seems to be repackaged by each generation). The NutritionFacts website is literally about published peer-reviewed research, not the author's own personal opinion, nor some "agenda" (pushed by whom, Big Broccoli?) In case you aren't trolling, try disabling your ad-blocker. Each page has citations with direct links to the studies mentioned in each video.
      - DrScump 11y ago
        If you can figure out the actual studies from those sites, please provide links to them or their abstracts, at least. Otherwise, all that is being provided are two websites pushing books, and their failure to even give usable locators to the claimed studies in text footnotes on the pages (if not clickable links) is suspicious.
noondip 11y ago
It's quite upsetting to see you're being downvoted for no apparent reason, with no logical rebuttal. I've also cut all animal and processed foods from my diet (it's much easier than it seems at first) and my cholesterol levels are similar to yours - in the optimal LDL range of 50 to 70 (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15172426 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15172426).

LunaSea 11y ago

I've stopped eating all together and my stats are out of this world.

kaeluka 11y ago
Why the snark?

boothead 11y ago

The problem is now that I'm not even sure whether I should agree with what a "good" or "bad" number is for LDL or TC. The recommended number seems to fall every few years, and I'm unsure how much of that is based on good research or industry pressure or what.

dspillett 11y ago

Recent research suggests that cholesterol directly in food isn't a major problem because most of it passes through the digestive system untouched. The problem is actually cholesterol produced by the body using other substances. 80% or more of the cholesterol in your body is produced by your body, no more than 20% of it comes from your diet unless your diet is particularly unbalanced in that manner. The reason cholesterol in people's diet got the blame is that there is often a strong correlation between the foods containing substances that do cause increased cholesterol in the body and foods containing significant amounts of cholesterol, and a similar correlation between certain lifestyle options that are risk factors for heart problems generally and eating those foods. So blindly reducing cholesterol in your diet is not useful and may lead you into a false sense of security - you could still be taking in the other stuff and living your life in a way that will encourage the body to produce too much cholesterol itself.

coldcode 11y ago
It's not even all that recent, I took some nutritional biochem classes in the late 70's and the professor said repeatedly that dietary cholesterol was not a big factor in what was in your blood as the molecule was too big to pass through the intestinal wall. What is made by the body (generally from a fatty diet) matters.
atomical 11y ago
http://nutritionfacts.org/video/how-the-egg-board-designs-misleading-studies/ http://nutritionfacts.org/video/how-the-egg-board-designs-mi... "The cholesterol in eggs not only worsens the effects of saturated fat, but has a dramatic effect on the level of cholesterol and fat circulating in our bloodstream during the day." I can't reply to the comment below me, but he does cite all the studies in his videos.
- boothead 11y ago
  I just had a click round that website. It's just the kind of place that I avoid like the plague. It seems hopelessly biased, as does the author. I didn't come across one link to an scientific study, and it was immediately obvious that there's a serious anti animal products agenda going on and no disclaimer. Avoid.
  - noondip 11y ago
    It's quite apparent you didn't actually look through the website, or you are just a low-carb shill (if so, please see http://www.atkinsexposed.org http://www.atkinsexposed.org - the same dietary nonsense seems to be repackaged by each generation). The NutritionFacts website is literally about published peer-reviewed research, not the author's own personal opinion, nor some "agenda" (pushed by whom, Big Broccoli?) In case you aren't trolling, try disabling your ad-blocker. Each page has citations with direct links to the studies mentioned in each video.
    - DrScump 11y ago
      If you can figure out the actual studies from those sites, please provide links to them or their abstracts, at least. Otherwise, all that is being provided are two websites pushing books, and their failure to even give usable locators to the claimed studies in text footnotes on the pages (if not clickable links) is suspicious.

noondip 11y ago

It's quite upsetting to see you're being downvoted for no apparent reason, with no logical rebuttal. I've also cut all animal and processed foods from my diet (it's much easier than it seems at first) and my cholesterol levels are similar to yours - in the optimal LDL range of 50 to 70 (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15172426 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15172426).