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Clearly they should start talking about money - if more you tubers and musicians and artists and what have you talked about what they are and aren't making, may

Clearly they should start talking about money - if more you tubers and musicians and artists and what have you talked about what they are and aren't making, maybe it would start to put more of a dent in the self-entitled feelings that a lot of fans have. The big problem with all of this though is that when artists wise up and stop trying to chase the dollars that aren't there, they stop producing as much creatively, and the fans don't realize what they are missing. More than a few times I've wished that the millions of fans out there would suddenly wake up with a much more evolved sense of taste, willing to reject the art that is a waste of time, and willing to pay for the art that is actually worth their time.

anon4 11y ago
No, people would just close the tab the moment they started talking about money.
- brownbat 11y ago
  Yeah, if that was the main theme, it'd drop subscribers. But a lot of podcasts will just have a note at the end, "If you want to support me being able to do this full time, donate! Set up a recurring donation and I'll send you [some cheap swag]." Then they can talk about meeting their goal, and how donations keep them free of influence from sponsors, and how it will improve the content if everyone gave just $1. NPR even does that sort of thing. There more and less classy ways to beg for money.
- silverbax88 11y ago
  So, if you are producing for fans who will never pay you for your work, is it worth it? We're not talking about purely artistic endeavors here, and the people who can do their form of 'art' without worrying about money are few and far between. Robert Crumb was paid for his work. Beethoven was paid for his work. Van Gogh wasn't paid for his work and it helped drive him to suicide. So, is it better to have 10,000 fans who will pay you for your work, or 3,000,000 who won't pay you anything, ever?
- cousin_it 11y ago
  Here's how you do it right: http://www.accursedfarms.com/rosss-fun-filled-beg-a-thon/ http://www.accursedfarms.com/rosss-fun-filled-beg-a-thon/ Ross got quite a lot of donations after that.

anon4 11y ago

No, people would just close the tab the moment they started talking about money.

brownbat 11y ago
Yeah, if that was the main theme, it'd drop subscribers. But a lot of podcasts will just have a note at the end, "If you want to support me being able to do this full time, donate! Set up a recurring donation and I'll send you [some cheap swag]." Then they can talk about meeting their goal, and how donations keep them free of influence from sponsors, and how it will improve the content if everyone gave just $1. NPR even does that sort of thing. There more and less classy ways to beg for money.
silverbax88 11y ago
So, if you are producing for fans who will never pay you for your work, is it worth it? We're not talking about purely artistic endeavors here, and the people who can do their form of 'art' without worrying about money are few and far between. Robert Crumb was paid for his work. Beethoven was paid for his work. Van Gogh wasn't paid for his work and it helped drive him to suicide. So, is it better to have 10,000 fans who will pay you for your work, or 3,000,000 who won't pay you anything, ever?
cousin_it 11y ago
Here's how you do it right: http://www.accursedfarms.com/rosss-fun-filled-beg-a-thon/ http://www.accursedfarms.com/rosss-fun-filled-beg-a-thon/ Ross got quite a lot of donations after that.