That wikipedia data for Japan is artifically low either because (1) overtime is often unreported and unpaid in Japan (more common in small companies but also tr

That wikipedia data for Japan is artifically low either because (1) overtime is often unreported and unpaid in Japan (more common in small companies but also true in highly profitable places, including my own former employer) and (2) much of the young workforce is underemployed much like in the States. It is true also that the numbers will differ from industry to industry, tier to tier. The worst is probably the smaller System Integration "SI" shops. The Mizuho Bank System Integration work going on right now is one much project that will be a multi-year "death march". And yes, people do actually die in these projects. You don't get terms like Karoshi entering Western vernacular without cause. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kar%C5%8Dshi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kar%C5%8Dshi Even at my former gig, there was a building occupied by the Integrated Circuits team that was called "The Castle with no Night" because the motion detection enabled lights never went out.