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I'm not sure which headline you're reading, but the one here references both "Ford dealer" and "truck with logo" (I had to shorten from "truck with company logo

I'm not sure which headline you're reading, but the one here references both "Ford dealer" and "truck with logo" (I had to shorten from "truck with company logo" to fit Hacker News' 80 character limit)

munificent 11y ago
It's easy to interpret the "after" in your headline as "because". But the real "because" is because the dealer didn't remove the decal, not because it ended up in Syria.
- EGreg 11y ago
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_hoc_ergo_propter_hoc https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_hoc_ergo_propter_hoc edit: why the downvote?
  - TeMPOraL 11y ago
    I guess it's because this fallacy is not relevant to the topic. The association of "after" with "because" in cases like these is not about fallacious reasoning, it's because particular two things were chosen and put together to form a headline, and it doesn't make sense to create a headline like this if you only want to connect the two things with a temporal relationship (one came after another).
- dragonwriter 11y ago
  > But the real "because" is because the dealer didn't remove the decal, not because it ended up in Syria. In a causal sense, the ending up in Syria seems to be a key actual cause, as does the fact that the decal was still present. Both are probably key points legally, too, as one is the alleged omission, and the other the alleged mechanism of harm, both of which are important to the legal action.
danielvf 11y ago
Tlrobinson, at the time I commented, both the original article headline and the title here did not say "dealership". I'm guessing your title had been overwritten by the original article headline. No worries.
- tlrobinson 11y ago
  Nope, it definitely always said "dealer". I remember the original title being exactly 86 characters because HN told me so, and it still is. I removed "company" so it would fit in 80 characters.
- FF76 11y ago
  regardless, thank you for the concise tl;dr

munificent 11y ago

It's easy to interpret the "after" in your headline as "because". But the real "because" is because the dealer didn't remove the decal, not because it ended up in Syria.

EGreg 11y ago
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_hoc_ergo_propter_hoc https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_hoc_ergo_propter_hoc edit: why the downvote?
- TeMPOraL 11y ago
  I guess it's because this fallacy is not relevant to the topic. The association of "after" with "because" in cases like these is not about fallacious reasoning, it's because particular two things were chosen and put together to form a headline, and it doesn't make sense to create a headline like this if you only want to connect the two things with a temporal relationship (one came after another).
dragonwriter 11y ago
> But the real "because" is because the dealer didn't remove the decal, not because it ended up in Syria. In a causal sense, the ending up in Syria seems to be a key actual cause, as does the fact that the decal was still present. Both are probably key points legally, too, as one is the alleged omission, and the other the alleged mechanism of harm, both of which are important to the legal action.

danielvf 11y ago

Tlrobinson, at the time I commented, both the original article headline and the title here did not say "dealership". I'm guessing your title had been overwritten by the original article headline. No worries.

tlrobinson 11y ago
Nope, it definitely always said "dealer". I remember the original title being exactly 86 characters because HN told me so, and it still is. I removed "company" so it would fit in 80 characters.
FF76 11y ago
regardless, thank you for the concise tl;dr