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As usual, the older generations fear change and subsequently lash out at the younger generations. The cycle continues.

by Zikes 11y ago

venomsnake 11y ago
I think of myself still as the young generation since I am from the so called millennials. Generally speaking I hate dumb stuff. Giving a fuck about what someone thinks about your body is dumb. Also in the gym - nobody does. Nobody really even thinks you exist and everyone has something better to do. You get, you undress, dress and get out. Do i fear change - hardly. Privacy requires space. Space means higher rents, which mean higher fees. I personally prefer to see/show from time to time acknowledgment that penises exist outside of porn and giger works and keep the gym experience cheap.
- Zikes 11y ago
  > Giving a fuck about what someone thinks about your body is dumb. Giving a fuck about what someone thinks about you is the natural human condition. That's not really the point, though. Privacy isn't about having something to hide, it's about the right to choose. But if you personally prefer to stare at dongs all day, you'll still have the internet and politics.
  - Jtsummers 11y ago
    > But if you personally prefer to stare at dongs all day, you'll still have the internet and politics. It's easy not to stare, you literally control your eyes. You can direct them upward. As a male (assuming heterosexual) do you find it impossible to not stare at women's cleavage? If you can look away from that, and you're attracted to it, then why would looking away from other men's genitals be difficult when you're not attracted to them?
    - Zikes 11y ago
      That was in response to "I personally prefer to see/show from time to time"
      - venomsnake 11y ago
        Compared to paying for a lot of useless waste of space ignoring a glimpse of a dick is not a big deal.
  - venomsnake 11y ago
    Have we lost the ancient art of ignoring? And do we have only stare or hide as responses to nudity in people we have no obligation to interact with?
    - Zikes 11y ago
      Again, that's irrelevant. Privacy is the exercise of the right to one's personal agency. Everybody has the right to choose to whom they will expose their naked self, and that's simply all there is to it. It's not about shame, ignoring, staring, self-consciousness, sexuality, or whatever other issues you're trying to conflate it with. It's simply a person's choice, which has entirely no negative effects on anyone else. You've no right to demand to see anyone naked at any time, and I certainly hope you don't believe you would have that right. Why does putting a bunch of people of the same gender in a room and putting a sign on the door change that at all?
      - venomsnake 11y ago
        Of course. But excising said right does not makes them immune from criticism. Especially when it has the added benefit of making the gym more expensive for everyone else.
        Zikes 11y ago
        Criticizing someone for exercising their right to privacy is not going to win you many friends. Also, a simple curtain is plenty. The article's talk about frosted glass pods are obviously a cherry-picked example intended to make millenials seem more absurd. It's simple capitalism, you very likely wouldn't see any change in your rates at all, and if you did then the gym down the street will undercut your gym with a "Strut Friendly" locker room.
- dragonwriter 11y ago
  > Generally speaking I hate dumb stuff. When people say that, I think what it usually means is "I place the label 'dumb' on anything that differs from my personal preferences".

As usual, the older generations fear change and subsequently lash out at the younger generations. The cycle continues.

by Zikes 11y ago

As usual, the older generations fear change and subsequently lash out at the younger generations. The cycle continues.

I think of myself still as the young generation since I am from the so called millennials. Generally speaking I hate dumb stuff. Giving a fuck about what someone thinks about your body is dumb. Also in the gym - nobody does. Nobody really even thinks you exist and everyone has something better to do. You get, you undress, dress and get out. Do i fear change - hardly. Privacy requires space. Space means higher rents, which mean higher fees. I personally prefer to see/show from time to time acknowledgment that penises exist outside of porn and giger works and keep the gym experience cheap.

Zikes 11y ago
> Giving a fuck about what someone thinks about your body is dumb. Giving a fuck about what someone thinks about you is the natural human condition. That's not really the point, though. Privacy isn't about having something to hide, it's about the right to choose. But if you personally prefer to stare at dongs all day, you'll still have the internet and politics.
- Jtsummers 11y ago
  > But if you personally prefer to stare at dongs all day, you'll still have the internet and politics. It's easy not to stare, you literally control your eyes. You can direct them upward. As a male (assuming heterosexual) do you find it impossible to not stare at women's cleavage? If you can look away from that, and you're attracted to it, then why would looking away from other men's genitals be difficult when you're not attracted to them?
  - Zikes 11y ago
    That was in response to "I personally prefer to see/show from time to time"
    - venomsnake 11y ago
      Compared to paying for a lot of useless waste of space ignoring a glimpse of a dick is not a big deal.
- venomsnake 11y ago
  Have we lost the ancient art of ignoring? And do we have only stare or hide as responses to nudity in people we have no obligation to interact with?
  - Zikes 11y ago
    Again, that's irrelevant. Privacy is the exercise of the right to one's personal agency. Everybody has the right to choose to whom they will expose their naked self, and that's simply all there is to it. It's not about shame, ignoring, staring, self-consciousness, sexuality, or whatever other issues you're trying to conflate it with. It's simply a person's choice, which has entirely no negative effects on anyone else. You've no right to demand to see anyone naked at any time, and I certainly hope you don't believe you would have that right. Why does putting a bunch of people of the same gender in a room and putting a sign on the door change that at all?
    - venomsnake 11y ago
      Of course. But excising said right does not makes them immune from criticism. Especially when it has the added benefit of making the gym more expensive for everyone else.
      - Zikes 11y ago
        Criticizing someone for exercising their right to privacy is not going to win you many friends. Also, a simple curtain is plenty. The article's talk about frosted glass pods are obviously a cherry-picked example intended to make millenials seem more absurd. It's simple capitalism, you very likely wouldn't see any change in your rates at all, and if you did then the gym down the street will undercut your gym with a "Strut Friendly" locker room.
dragonwriter 11y ago
> Generally speaking I hate dumb stuff. When people say that, I think what it usually means is "I place the label 'dumb' on anything that differs from my personal preferences".