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That's not under Google's control, it's under the OEM's or (in the US) the carrier. A phone bought directly from Google (the Nexus line, Google Play edition, et

That's not under Google's control, it's under the OEM's or (in the US) the carrier. A phone bought directly from Google (the Nexus line, Google Play edition, etc) doesn't have crapware of any kind unless you extend the definition to any app you don't personally use.

mahouse 11y ago
Of course it's under Google's control. "If you don't remove that crapware we don't allow you to bundle the Play Store with that phone".
shinratdr 11y ago
This simply isn't true. The Skyhook trial proved definitively that Google has the power to dictate what OEMs that ship the Google Apps suite include on their phones. Problem is, they've only ever used that ability to push their own products and services.
ocdtrekkie 11y ago
There's two categories of bloatware, both of which Google can control: - Google's bloatware. Google insists OEMs include like 20 Google services on every phone. Get rid of it. All of it. People want the Play Store, and if they want any other Google service, they can download it themselves. - Third party bloatware. Google places dozens of branding and so-called 'quality' restrictions on how Android is shipped. At the very least, all pre-installed software should be uninstallable, and that's a reasonable consumer protection they could insist upon in the MADA. As another commenter said though, Google only uses the MADA to protect it's illegal monopoly, not to protect consumers.
- Brotkrumen 11y ago
  Google only contols manufacturers as far as they want to ship google playstore. Android itself is gpl and apache license, so oems could just roll it themselves or go to a group such as cyanogenmod if google gets too restrictive.
  - ocdtrekkie 11y ago
    That's really not shockingly relevant. It's nearly impossible to sell a successful Android product without the Play Store. If it was, most companies would already be doing it to avoid Google's bloatware.

mahouse 11y ago

Of course it's under Google's control. "If you don't remove that crapware we don't allow you to bundle the Play Store with that phone".

shinratdr 11y ago

This simply isn't true. The Skyhook trial proved definitively that Google has the power to dictate what OEMs that ship the Google Apps suite include on their phones. Problem is, they've only ever used that ability to push their own products and services.

ocdtrekkie 11y ago

There's two categories of bloatware, both of which Google can control: - Google's bloatware. Google insists OEMs include like 20 Google services on every phone. Get rid of it. All of it. People want the Play Store, and if they want any other Google service, they can download it themselves. - Third party bloatware. Google places dozens of branding and so-called 'quality' restrictions on how Android is shipped. At the very least, all pre-installed software should be uninstallable, and that's a reasonable consumer protection they could insist upon in the MADA. As another commenter said though, Google only uses the MADA to protect it's illegal monopoly, not to protect consumers.

Brotkrumen 11y ago
Google only contols manufacturers as far as they want to ship google playstore. Android itself is gpl and apache license, so oems could just roll it themselves or go to a group such as cyanogenmod if google gets too restrictive.
- ocdtrekkie 11y ago
  That's really not shockingly relevant. It's nearly impossible to sell a successful Android product without the Play Store. If it was, most companies would already be doing it to avoid Google's bloatware.