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It also fails to disclaim liability, though the WTFPL does have an optional warranty disclaimer variant. And no, I don't know what planet you live in, but it's

It also fails to disclaim liability, though the WTFPL does have an optional warranty disclaimer variant. And no, I don't know what planet you live in, but it's not offensive to GPL evangelists (especially not more than proprietary licenses). In fact, the big irony is that the FSF both approves the WTFPL and considers it GPL-compatible, [1] but the OSI rejects it entirely! [2] The GPL evangelists have the upper hand here. [1] https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.en.html#WTFPL https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.en.html#WTFPL [2] http://opensource.org/minutes20090304 http://opensource.org/minutes20090304

morganvachon 11y ago
> And no, I don't know what planet you live in, but it's not offensive to GPL evangelists (especially not more than proprietary licenses). I was being facetious; it was a good-natured stab at Gnu folks, not meant to be offensive and certainly not serious. I know having a sense of humor is forbidden on HN but I can afford a few points for a silly joke every now and then. I still find the WTFPL itself hilarious in a good way. :-)
- vacri 11y ago
  "it's offensive, hooray!" is "not meant to be offensive"?
  - morganvachon 11y ago
    Um, what? I said "hooray Anarchy" tongue-in-cheek. Don't change my words to create a false argument, please.
    - vacri 11y ago
      The tone of your comment was that you were excited that it was offensive to a group of people. I made no change in the intent of your words. "Best thing! Even more offensive! Hooray!" As 'good-natured stabs' go, it's pretty low-quality.
      - morganvachon 11y ago
        Sigh. There's always one guy in the room who has to have the joke explained to him, draining it of what little humor it may have contained. "Hooray Anarchy!" was in direct reference to the text of the license itself, specifically "0. You just DO WHAT THE FUCK YOU WANT TO.", which is quite anarchic, if you didn't notice. > I made no change in the intent of your words. I'll grant that perhaps you truly did not catch my meaning (as explained above); regardless you did indeed paraphrase me not once but twice, to satisfy your need to call me out. Your perception of a hateful slur on my part is just that, perceived and not actual. > As 'good-natured stabs' go, it's pretty low-quality. Indeed, I never said it was a good joke. :-) And now the poor horse is nothing but a bloody pile of meat. Satisfied?
        ectoplasm 11y ago
        Maybe he thought your comment was under the WTFPL? Hooray Anarchy!
        vacri 11y ago
        I got where you were coming from. I just think it's crap when someone is gleeful about being offensive, then doesn't own that. I don't really care about sharp elbows in words, as long as people own them. > Your perception of a hateful slur on my part Speaking of 'creating false arguments', where did I say (or imply) 'hateful slur'? Why do you get to paraphrase me and at the same time object to being paraphrased? My point is that you take joy in something being offensive, then don't own that. It wasn't meant to devolve into all this, but you seem to not be getting my point just as you think I haven't gotten yours. > And now the poor horse is nothing but a bloody pile of meat. Satisfied? Well, we each beat a side of the poor thing :)
- vezzy-fnord 11y ago
  I wasn't opposing the joke. I was objecting on the basis of it being nonsensical, unless your goal was to just arbitrarily make a non sequitur.
  - morganvachon 11y ago
    Yes.
  - niij 11y ago
    A whoosh of epic proportions.
lwf 11y ago
So, I'm not sure the optional warranty disclaimer variant is actually sufficient under US law. Disclaimers of implied warranties, e.g. warranty of merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose, need to be explicitly, and "conspicuously" disclaimed. Apparently the legal profession has decided that means in ALL CAPS. http://www.shakelaw.com/blog/why-is-your-contract-yelling-at-you-all-caps-in-contracts-explained/ http://www.shakelaw.com/blog/why-is-your-contract-yelling-at...

morganvachon 11y ago

> And no, I don't know what planet you live in, but it's not offensive to GPL evangelists (especially not more than proprietary licenses). I was being facetious; it was a good-natured stab at Gnu folks, not meant to be offensive and certainly not serious. I know having a sense of humor is forbidden on HN but I can afford a few points for a silly joke every now and then. I still find the WTFPL itself hilarious in a good way. :-)

vacri 11y ago
"it's offensive, hooray!" is "not meant to be offensive"?
- morganvachon 11y ago
  Um, what? I said "hooray Anarchy" tongue-in-cheek. Don't change my words to create a false argument, please.
  - vacri 11y ago
    The tone of your comment was that you were excited that it was offensive to a group of people. I made no change in the intent of your words. "Best thing! Even more offensive! Hooray!" As 'good-natured stabs' go, it's pretty low-quality.
    - morganvachon 11y ago
      Sigh. There's always one guy in the room who has to have the joke explained to him, draining it of what little humor it may have contained. "Hooray Anarchy!" was in direct reference to the text of the license itself, specifically "0. You just DO WHAT THE FUCK YOU WANT TO.", which is quite anarchic, if you didn't notice. > I made no change in the intent of your words. I'll grant that perhaps you truly did not catch my meaning (as explained above); regardless you did indeed paraphrase me not once but twice, to satisfy your need to call me out. Your perception of a hateful slur on my part is just that, perceived and not actual. > As 'good-natured stabs' go, it's pretty low-quality. Indeed, I never said it was a good joke. :-) And now the poor horse is nothing but a bloody pile of meat. Satisfied?
      - ectoplasm 11y ago
        Maybe he thought your comment was under the WTFPL? Hooray Anarchy!
      - vacri 11y ago
        I got where you were coming from. I just think it's crap when someone is gleeful about being offensive, then doesn't own that. I don't really care about sharp elbows in words, as long as people own them. > Your perception of a hateful slur on my part Speaking of 'creating false arguments', where did I say (or imply) 'hateful slur'? Why do you get to paraphrase me and at the same time object to being paraphrased? My point is that you take joy in something being offensive, then don't own that. It wasn't meant to devolve into all this, but you seem to not be getting my point just as you think I haven't gotten yours. > And now the poor horse is nothing but a bloody pile of meat. Satisfied? Well, we each beat a side of the poor thing :)
vezzy-fnord 11y ago
I wasn't opposing the joke. I was objecting on the basis of it being nonsensical, unless your goal was to just arbitrarily make a non sequitur.
- morganvachon 11y ago
  Yes.
- niij 11y ago
  A whoosh of epic proportions.

lwf 11y ago

So, I'm not sure the optional warranty disclaimer variant is actually sufficient under US law. Disclaimers of implied warranties, e.g. warranty of merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose, need to be explicitly, and "conspicuously" disclaimed. Apparently the legal profession has decided that means in ALL CAPS. http://www.shakelaw.com/blog/why-is-your-contract-yelling-at-you-all-caps-in-contracts-explained/ http://www.shakelaw.com/blog/why-is-your-contract-yelling-at...