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Many (most) of Australians don't even have the option of 10 mbit. When the new NBN is rolled out, most will have the option for 25 Mbps. This plan is due to be

Many (most) of Australians don't even have the option of 10 mbit. When the new NBN is rolled out, most will have the option for 25 Mbps. This plan is due to be completed by 2020.

qzervaas 11y ago
My office is "in the city" in Adelaide, a city of 1.25m. Our only reasonably priced option is 12Mbit ADSL2 (which is about 0.8mbps up). We can get 100mbit fibre for $1000/mo, plus cost of installing the fibre. We can get 12/12 DSL for $300/mo. As an app developer, I am often unable to upload anything to iTunes Connect without saturating the link and it timing out. The only feasible option is paying a premium for 4G/LTE speeds on Telstra.
xxpor 11y ago
Part of the issue is that getting transit out of Australia is EXTREMELY expensive. Telstra still has a stranglehold on the country, and the amount of cables out of the country hasn't kept up with demand.
- qzervaas 11y ago
  Not to say your point isn't true, but that has nothing to do with successive governments shitting on each other's plans when it comes to installing infrastructure to houses (or choosing the right infrastructure to install).
  - xxpor 11y ago
    Sure. I think they are two separate, but related problems. Even if the NBN were perfect and brought gigabit internet access to the entire country, without more intl transit it wouldn't help as much as people would hope.
    - kalleboo 11y ago
      It would still make a huge difference on the things that matter the most bandwidth-wise, such a video services and software distribution - all things that are on geographically distributed CDNs with local nodes in Australia
froo 11y ago
I've got a 100mbit Fibre connection. I live in an inner city suburb. It is continually dropping out (I get an average about 1 hour a week of downtime), my upload speed tops out at 35mbit (using iiNet's own tools) and for a lot of things like YouTube, videos can be sketchy, even on the more popular ones. Australian's really aren't missing out on much if this was supposed to be the standard.
- techdragon 11y ago
  If your fibre is dropping out... Something is really wrong.
  - froo 11y ago
    You're telling me. When we first moved into this apartment building, NBNco hadn't even hooked the building up correctly. It took 5 weeks of constant calling to eventually get an engineer to actually fix it (and in the process, get the entire building connected, it wasn't just us having issues).

Many (most) of Australians don't even have the option of 10 mbit. When the new NBN is rolled out, most will have the option for 25 Mbps. This plan is due to be completed by 2020.

qzervaas 11y ago

My office is "in the city" in Adelaide, a city of 1.25m. Our only reasonably priced option is 12Mbit ADSL2 (which is about 0.8mbps up). We can get 100mbit fibre for $1000/mo, plus cost of installing the fibre. We can get 12/12 DSL for $300/mo. As an app developer, I am often unable to upload anything to iTunes Connect without saturating the link and it timing out. The only feasible option is paying a premium for 4G/LTE speeds on Telstra.

xxpor 11y ago

Part of the issue is that getting transit out of Australia is EXTREMELY expensive. Telstra still has a stranglehold on the country, and the amount of cables out of the country hasn't kept up with demand.

qzervaas 11y ago
Not to say your point isn't true, but that has nothing to do with successive governments shitting on each other's plans when it comes to installing infrastructure to houses (or choosing the right infrastructure to install).
- xxpor 11y ago
  Sure. I think they are two separate, but related problems. Even if the NBN were perfect and brought gigabit internet access to the entire country, without more intl transit it wouldn't help as much as people would hope.
  - kalleboo 11y ago
    It would still make a huge difference on the things that matter the most bandwidth-wise, such a video services and software distribution - all things that are on geographically distributed CDNs with local nodes in Australia

froo 11y ago

I've got a 100mbit Fibre connection. I live in an inner city suburb. It is continually dropping out (I get an average about 1 hour a week of downtime), my upload speed tops out at 35mbit (using iiNet's own tools) and for a lot of things like YouTube, videos can be sketchy, even on the more popular ones. Australian's really aren't missing out on much if this was supposed to be the standard.

techdragon 11y ago
If your fibre is dropping out... Something is really wrong.
- froo 11y ago
  You're telling me. When we first moved into this apartment building, NBNco hadn't even hooked the building up correctly. It took 5 weeks of constant calling to eventually get an engineer to actually fix it (and in the process, get the entire building connected, it wasn't just us having issues).