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No, you haven't really shown me how it's predatory, although I do know that does happen (as it does in all large lending markets). I'm not sure what your point
by HiLo 11y ago
No, you haven't really shown me how it's predatory, although I do know that does happen (as it does in all large lending markets).
I'm not sure what your point is about the largest debt collector having contracts with the DOE. Of course they do, that's almost a definitional thing. Pretty much the largest of anything has some kind of government contract.
Defaults are on the rise from a low base, and the securitized portfolios of these loans haven't really taken much of a hit, so it doesn't "sound familiar" because I don't see the same balance sheet risk as 2008 subprime, even though there are undoubtedly subprime elements to this. (For the sake of clarity, I'm referring to the subprime credit ratings and category, not the 2008 era).
I guess what I'm asking is, from what base is all this happening? Predatory lending is on the rise... from .5% of loans to 1%? 1% to 5%? 5% to 10%? Same with the others.
I guess what I'm trying to get out of this thread, is:
1. What novel insight is being presented here that invalidates huge amounts of sophisticated due diligence by incentivized, professional firms?
2. If none, what channel or mechanism is perpetuating something that everybody knows is a bad deal?
3. If everybody knows it's a bad deal, but there is something simply keeping it prodding along, this would not pass even the first level of risk management at these institutions, which really stresses the idea of #2.
- padobson 11y ago2. If none, what channel or mechanism is perpetuating something that everybody knows is a bad deal? This. As I said in another reply to my OP, the government is backing these loans, which makes everyone think they're golden - and that might be true. Perhaps the government will allow the bubble to inflate forever, but the government stepped in in 2008, and there were still plenty of short opportunities available. But it's unquestionably a bubble if hundreds of billions of dollars (and rising) of loans are being made to people to buy something that A) has no collateral (making it worse than the subprime crisis) and B) the value of the service they're purchasing is, by all perceptions, dropping over time.
- branchless 11y agoThe whole thing is predatory. It's the classic monopoly system where you loose out if you play and if you don't. Think degrees are overpriced? Go live life as a labourer with no access to the top paying jobs. Or suck it up and hand over a large part of your labour to the gate-keeper. Available credit sets the price. Ramp it up and watch the tribute flow in.