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85:14:1 for Android:iOS:Windows Phone might be right globally, but... that's surely skewed by developing countries. My gut feelings say iOS would be very domin

85:14:1 for Android:iOS:Windows Phone might be right globally, but... that's surely skewed by developing countries. My gut feelings say iOS would be very dominant, but it'd be interesting to see how the ratios compare in startup hubs to the rest of the U.S. Or, even better, broken down by income level, state, or some other useful demographic info. Edit: Sounds like I should do some more research on Germany :).

TillE 11y ago
Android is hugely dominant in Germany and most of the rest of Europe. iOS is somewhat higher than 14%, but still, the US is a clear outlier in its relatively even mobile OS numbers.
digi_owl 11y ago
I dunno. Fire up a map of Europe on Statcounter and you see Android everywhere but UK, Scandinavia, and maybe Netherlands. The rest has Android sitting on top (and i would hardly consider Germany a "developing nation").
- aembleton 11y ago
  The UK is pretty much neck and neck when it comes to Android vs ios. If you change the map to just this month then Android comes out ahead: http://gs.statcounter.com/#mobile_os-eu-monthly-201512-201512-map http://gs.statcounter.com/#mobile_os-eu-monthly-201512-20151...
- tedmiston 11y ago
  Wow, their data is enlightening. Sept to Nov 2015* by Mobile OS Worldwide http://gs.statcounter.com/#mobile_os-ww-monthly-201509-201511-map http://gs.statcounter.com/#mobile_os-ww-monthly-201509-20151... These percentages are from the CSV export: Country Android iOS WP ------- ------- ----- ---- U.S. 46.81 50.7 1.63 Germany 67.72 28.34 2.67 UK 43.14 44.2 3.62 European countries dominated by iOS - Denmark - Faroe Islands - Gibraltar - Guernsey - Isle of Man - Jersey - Liechtenstein - Luxembourg - Monaco - Norway - Sweden - Switzerland - United Kingdom (though 44.2% iOS vs. 43.14% Android) Asian countries dominated by iOS - Christmas Island - Japan - Macao If you filter out the rich/small/weirder island nations, both lists are... quite short. A few more for the curious: Top 5 Android Countries by %: Country % ----------- ----- Myanmar 92.32 Niue 87.05 Iran 86.86 North Korea 86.53 Poland 86.31 Top 5 iOS Countries by %: Country % ---------------- ----- Norfolk Island 77.27 Christmas Island 71.74 Monaco 70.07 Japan 65.4 Guernsey 62.04 *The free version limits to 3 months for a map.
  - nly 11y ago
    I don't know why iPhone is so popular in Japan, but the other 4 countries in your top 5 are fairly small...perhaps this is driven by carrier deals?
    - bsder 11y ago
      Because the entrenched incumbents were pushing piles of garbage for phones because they thought they had a walled garden due to Japanese language support. iPhones came in and blew a hole in that.
    - digi_owl 11y ago
      Apple products have a special place in Japan in general. their computers was perhaps the first personal computers that supported the Japanese alphabets.
  - diminish 11y ago
    Also beware, September to November is peak ios moment in the year due to release cycle. 2016 q2, q3 would be quite different in Europe too.
- tallanvor 11y ago
  Poland is very interesting... Android is the clear winner with Windows coming in second with over 7%. iOS is under 2%.
  - mamon 11y ago
    This is mostly due to the fact that iPhones are ridiculously expensive in Poland (over 50% premium over Galaxy S6 Edge, for instance). Most of the Polish people who can afford buying an iPhone are those who emigrated to UK or Germany :)
  - agsamek 11y ago
    Poland has 36M people.
curun1r 11y ago
The other thing to consider is the normal consequence of the 90:9:1 rule, which I'm not sure applies to the current mobile market. One of the reasons why that ratio is problematic is that one company is reaping the vast majority of the profits and can invest more heavily than competitors can. This leads to stagnation as the entrenched company invests just enough to keep their product superior to competitors and keeps the rest as profits. But the mobile market is unique in that the revenue share is much more even. Apple's share of mobile profits is far more than the 14% of mobile users mentioned. This means that despite Google having a large lead in the overall number of users, both companies are able to invest similarly in their platform and the competition between the two is far more intense than almost any other 90:9:1 situation. The same holds true with the ecosystems around the mobile platforms...iOS users are much more valuable to app developers and the Android market is much more fragmented which means that both ecosystems have a thriving developer community.

TillE 11y ago

Android is hugely dominant in Germany and most of the rest of Europe. iOS is somewhat higher than 14%, but still, the US is a clear outlier in its relatively even mobile OS numbers.

digi_owl 11y ago

I dunno. Fire up a map of Europe on Statcounter and you see Android everywhere but UK, Scandinavia, and maybe Netherlands. The rest has Android sitting on top (and i would hardly consider Germany a "developing nation").

aembleton 11y ago
The UK is pretty much neck and neck when it comes to Android vs ios. If you change the map to just this month then Android comes out ahead: http://gs.statcounter.com/#mobile_os-eu-monthly-201512-201512-map http://gs.statcounter.com/#mobile_os-eu-monthly-201512-20151...
tedmiston 11y ago
Wow, their data is enlightening. Sept to Nov 2015* by Mobile OS Worldwide http://gs.statcounter.com/#mobile_os-ww-monthly-201509-201511-map http://gs.statcounter.com/#mobile_os-ww-monthly-201509-20151... These percentages are from the CSV export: Country Android iOS WP ------- ------- ----- ---- U.S. 46.81 50.7 1.63 Germany 67.72 28.34 2.67 UK 43.14 44.2 3.62 European countries dominated by iOS - Denmark - Faroe Islands - Gibraltar - Guernsey - Isle of Man - Jersey - Liechtenstein - Luxembourg - Monaco - Norway - Sweden - Switzerland - United Kingdom (though 44.2% iOS vs. 43.14% Android) Asian countries dominated by iOS - Christmas Island - Japan - Macao If you filter out the rich/small/weirder island nations, both lists are... quite short. A few more for the curious: Top 5 Android Countries by %: Country % ----------- ----- Myanmar 92.32 Niue 87.05 Iran 86.86 North Korea 86.53 Poland 86.31 Top 5 iOS Countries by %: Country % ---------------- ----- Norfolk Island 77.27 Christmas Island 71.74 Monaco 70.07 Japan 65.4 Guernsey 62.04 *The free version limits to 3 months for a map.
- nly 11y ago
  I don't know why iPhone is so popular in Japan, but the other 4 countries in your top 5 are fairly small...perhaps this is driven by carrier deals?
  - bsder 11y ago
    Because the entrenched incumbents were pushing piles of garbage for phones because they thought they had a walled garden due to Japanese language support. iPhones came in and blew a hole in that.
  - digi_owl 11y ago
    Apple products have a special place in Japan in general. their computers was perhaps the first personal computers that supported the Japanese alphabets.
- diminish 11y ago
  Also beware, September to November is peak ios moment in the year due to release cycle. 2016 q2, q3 would be quite different in Europe too.
tallanvor 11y ago
Poland is very interesting... Android is the clear winner with Windows coming in second with over 7%. iOS is under 2%.
- mamon 11y ago
  This is mostly due to the fact that iPhones are ridiculously expensive in Poland (over 50% premium over Galaxy S6 Edge, for instance). Most of the Polish people who can afford buying an iPhone are those who emigrated to UK or Germany :)
- agsamek 11y ago
  Poland has 36M people.

curun1r 11y ago

The other thing to consider is the normal consequence of the 90:9:1 rule, which I'm not sure applies to the current mobile market. One of the reasons why that ratio is problematic is that one company is reaping the vast majority of the profits and can invest more heavily than competitors can. This leads to stagnation as the entrenched company invests just enough to keep their product superior to competitors and keeps the rest as profits. But the mobile market is unique in that the revenue share is much more even. Apple's share of mobile profits is far more than the 14% of mobile users mentioned. This means that despite Google having a large lead in the overall number of users, both companies are able to invest similarly in their platform and the competition between the two is far more intense than almost any other 90:9:1 situation. The same holds true with the ecosystems around the mobile platforms...iOS users are much more valuable to app developers and the Android market is much more fragmented which means that both ecosystems have a thriving developer community.