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tldr - more time outside in sunlight likely reduces myopia. kids these days don't want to go outside so you must force them.

by losty 11y ago

raverbashing 11y ago
"don't want to go outside" Don't forget the scaremongering about skin cancer, dangers of the streets (or just the weather being crappy) But to be honest outdoors is boring and just saying "ah go outside" means pretty much nothing.
- DanBC 11y ago
  > Don't forget the scaremongering about skin cancer, Hang on - most people only need 15 to 30 minutes of direct sunlight per day for their vitamin D (and many people don't get enough), but that's not saying the risk of cancer is scare mongering. Skin cancer is the most common cancer; melanoma is about 2% of skin cancer cases but very many more skin cancer deaths. White americans have about a 2.4% risk over their lifetime of getting melanoma. About 9900 Americans die each year from melanoma, and about 70,000 people new melanomas will be diagnosed each year. And melanoma is one of the most common cancers in young adults. The major risk factor for melanoma is exposure to UV light.
- emiliobumachar 11y ago
  But it's 3D!
blisterpeanuts 11y ago
>> tldr Yes, is this a trend even among prestigious scientific news publications, to leave out the summary and force readers to skim through many paragraphs just to get to this rather simple and predictable conclusion? Poorly written article and I'm disappointed in Nature.
- ycosynot 11y ago
  I think you're a bit tough, it's not their responsibility to summarize, and they provided an interesting and free article. I think it'd be nice if there was a service which systematically tldr everything, instead of having it in comments. That'd allow for a lot of information at one glance (though unverified). It's not my website but for what it's worth I found this website which does it, http://tldr.io/discover http://tldr.io/discover
  - blisterpeanuts 11y ago
    Traditional scientific and other types of informational articles begin with an introductory paragraph that summarizes the piece. In scientific writing, it's called an "abstract". In general nonfiction exposition, it's a principle of good organization: introduction, body, and conclusion. Of course it's not "required" to provide an abstract or explanatory subtitle at the top; it's just good practice.
lucaspiller 11y ago
I spend most my childhood outside (my parents lived in a village and didn't get a computer at home until I was a teenager), but I still got myopia when I was in secondary school.
pool 11y ago
To me that's harsh because I grew up rural, and was outside some, but...so isolated. There was only so much time you could stand outside trying to make up games by yourself in that rotten climate. Being forced outside sucked when I could at least read books to pass the time if I went in. I'm pretty delighted, though, that people are finally getting a handle on the causes of myopia.

tldr - more time outside in sunlight likely reduces myopia. kids these days don't want to go outside so you must force them.

by losty 11y ago

tldr - more time outside in sunlight likely reduces myopia. kids these days don't want to go outside so you must force them.

raverbashing 11y ago

"don't want to go outside" Don't forget the scaremongering about skin cancer, dangers of the streets (or just the weather being crappy) But to be honest outdoors is boring and just saying "ah go outside" means pretty much nothing.

DanBC 11y ago
> Don't forget the scaremongering about skin cancer, Hang on - most people only need 15 to 30 minutes of direct sunlight per day for their vitamin D (and many people don't get enough), but that's not saying the risk of cancer is scare mongering. Skin cancer is the most common cancer; melanoma is about 2% of skin cancer cases but very many more skin cancer deaths. White americans have about a 2.4% risk over their lifetime of getting melanoma. About 9900 Americans die each year from melanoma, and about 70,000 people new melanomas will be diagnosed each year. And melanoma is one of the most common cancers in young adults. The major risk factor for melanoma is exposure to UV light.
emiliobumachar 11y ago
But it's 3D!

blisterpeanuts 11y ago

>> tldr Yes, is this a trend even among prestigious scientific news publications, to leave out the summary and force readers to skim through many paragraphs just to get to this rather simple and predictable conclusion? Poorly written article and I'm disappointed in Nature.

ycosynot 11y ago
I think you're a bit tough, it's not their responsibility to summarize, and they provided an interesting and free article. I think it'd be nice if there was a service which systematically tldr everything, instead of having it in comments. That'd allow for a lot of information at one glance (though unverified). It's not my website but for what it's worth I found this website which does it, http://tldr.io/discover http://tldr.io/discover
- blisterpeanuts 11y ago
  Traditional scientific and other types of informational articles begin with an introductory paragraph that summarizes the piece. In scientific writing, it's called an "abstract". In general nonfiction exposition, it's a principle of good organization: introduction, body, and conclusion. Of course it's not "required" to provide an abstract or explanatory subtitle at the top; it's just good practice.

lucaspiller 11y ago

I spend most my childhood outside (my parents lived in a village and didn't get a computer at home until I was a teenager), but I still got myopia when I was in secondary school.

pool 11y ago

To me that's harsh because I grew up rural, and was outside some, but...so isolated. There was only so much time you could stand outside trying to make up games by yourself in that rotten climate. Being forced outside sucked when I could at least read books to pass the time if I went in. I'm pretty delighted, though, that people are finally getting a handle on the causes of myopia.