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How about something like https://vpn.ht/en https://vpn.ht/en? If you really value privacy, you should be willing to pay modestly for it, no?

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icebraining 11y ago
VPNs don't give you anonymity, the company behind it knows everything about your connection. And paying just helps connect your account with your identity.
- m82labs 11y ago
  HTTPS://proxpn.com accepts Bitcoin and does no server side logging.
  - r3bl 11y ago
    And how can I be sure that a VPN service I have never heard about before actually does not log my data on the server side?
  - icebraining 11y ago
    Besides r3bl's point, if the FBI had demanded a copy of the SSL/TLS key from them, as they did with Lavabit, their claim "we don't log" would still be true. They also require a mobile number for account activation.
- bigbugbag 11y ago
  Well,nothing ever gives full online anonymity. Only raises the cost to get to you. One designs her own anonymity according to one's relevant threat model. For practical reasons, one can reasonably aim at evading global surveillance by not standing among the low hanging fruits, but aiming at staying out of reach of a state sponsored probe is an altogether different matter, think edward snowden different. Then again some VPN providers exist where they can legally operate without collecting and retaining data about their clients. In any case, be sure to check your VPN provider for the level of anonymity it provides[1]. [1]: https://torrentfreak.com/anonymous-vpn-service-provider-review-2015-150228/ https://torrentfreak.com/anonymous-vpn-service-provider-revi...
  - icebraining 11y ago
    My point is that we have no means of ensuring that those VPN providers actually provide any anonymity; for all I know, all of those who claim they don't log could actually be logging and selling all that data, making their use worse for my privacy than directly connecting to the Internet. It comes down to the point made by cperciva in his post "Playing chicken with cat.jpg": http://www.daemonology.net/blog/2012-01-19-playing-chicken-with-cat-jpg.html http://www.daemonology.net/blog/2012-01-19-playing-chicken-w...
  - geofft 11y ago
    OK, and what distinguishes this VPN service from complete snake oil, or worse, something that actively tracks you? Remember that a VPN is by definition a MITM: all your traffic in both directions goes through it.
- anonbanker 11y ago
  cryptostorm[1] is by far the best on this aspect, along with how billing is handled separately (from a different organization based on Sovereign First Nation Territory!) from your connection details (which they don't log). 1. https://cryptostorm.is/ https://cryptostorm.is/

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icebraining 11y ago

VPNs don't give you anonymity, the company behind it knows everything about your connection. And paying just helps connect your account with your identity.

m82labs 11y ago
HTTPS://proxpn.com accepts Bitcoin and does no server side logging.
- r3bl 11y ago
  And how can I be sure that a VPN service I have never heard about before actually does not log my data on the server side?
- icebraining 11y ago
  Besides r3bl's point, if the FBI had demanded a copy of the SSL/TLS key from them, as they did with Lavabit, their claim "we don't log" would still be true. They also require a mobile number for account activation.
bigbugbag 11y ago
Well,nothing ever gives full online anonymity. Only raises the cost to get to you. One designs her own anonymity according to one's relevant threat model. For practical reasons, one can reasonably aim at evading global surveillance by not standing among the low hanging fruits, but aiming at staying out of reach of a state sponsored probe is an altogether different matter, think edward snowden different. Then again some VPN providers exist where they can legally operate without collecting and retaining data about their clients. In any case, be sure to check your VPN provider for the level of anonymity it provides[1]. [1]: https://torrentfreak.com/anonymous-vpn-service-provider-review-2015-150228/ https://torrentfreak.com/anonymous-vpn-service-provider-revi...
- icebraining 11y ago
  My point is that we have no means of ensuring that those VPN providers actually provide any anonymity; for all I know, all of those who claim they don't log could actually be logging and selling all that data, making their use worse for my privacy than directly connecting to the Internet. It comes down to the point made by cperciva in his post "Playing chicken with cat.jpg": http://www.daemonology.net/blog/2012-01-19-playing-chicken-with-cat-jpg.html http://www.daemonology.net/blog/2012-01-19-playing-chicken-w...
- geofft 11y ago
  OK, and what distinguishes this VPN service from complete snake oil, or worse, something that actively tracks you? Remember that a VPN is by definition a MITM: all your traffic in both directions goes through it.
anonbanker 11y ago
cryptostorm[1] is by far the best on this aspect, along with how billing is handled separately (from a different organization based on Sovereign First Nation Territory!) from your connection details (which they don't log). 1. https://cryptostorm.is/ https://cryptostorm.is/