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There are still only the same number of hours in the day, though. You're making pretty fundamental alterations to your habits in order to 'reclaim' time that is

There are still only the same number of hours in the day, though. You're making pretty fundamental alterations to your habits in order to 'reclaim' time that isn't really lost.

djsumdog 11y ago
That's what I really had trouble with. There have been times in my life when I've been exceptionally motivated: pet projects, new girlfriend, etc. I'll wear out, get to bed at 8pm, wake up early and keep working or go to the gym. But I'm also really productive between midnight and 4am. That's where I got my best work done during University and when I quit my job last year and went on a 9 months sabbatical. How about we get rid of this horrible idea that we all need to be up early? If you're a morning person and that works for you: great. You should keep that shit up. If you don't think you are, then you should at least try it. Maybe it would work better for you. Don't discount it. But if you try it and don't really like it, then why the hell should you have to be at work at 8am? Especially in IT. Our morning commutes clog up our motorways. If people adjusted and spread out office work schedules, it would make our transportation systems that much more flexible. We don't all need to be morning people.
- petke 11y ago
  For me night time is lazy time. The world is asleep and it doesn't demand anything of me. So I take it easy and dont get much work done. I wake up late and have to play catch up with the world again. The few times I wake up early I have a head start on the world for once. Feels good.
  - rev_bird 11y ago
    > The world is asleep and it doesn't demand anything of me. I really like night time for the same reason, but I think I interpret it in exactly the opposite way you do: Nobody is bothering me with things (or distracting me with interesting conversation and fun group things to do), so I can finally get some quiet, unbroken work time in, where I can get in the zone and work for four hours without any interruptions.
iolothebard 11y ago
He was referring to time with his spouse, so he was reclaiming time in that regard. Some time is more valuable than other time.
- usaphp 11y ago
  His wife is at work in the morning anyway, not sure how waking up early makes up for that?
  - brandonmenc 11y ago
    Because they can both stop working around the same time.
oh_sigh 11y ago
Did you read the part about how he wanted to sync his schedule with his wifes schedule, so they could spend more time together?
- usaphp 11y ago
  If his wife is on morning meetings anyway - what's the point of waking up early for him? They probably see each other after her work anyway, he was awake at that time even when he had a night owl schedule. I don't see how he won any time by shifting his schedule, he still needs to do work, he just does it now while his wife is at work, before he used to work when she was sleeping.
  - jacalata 11y ago
    From my own experience - he was probably getting up later, going to work later, and getting home a while after her, which is where the real 'time together' was gained (him leaving work earlier). Also a lot of people like to be winding down and going to bed together, which doesn't work if one of you is going to be up for another four hours.
  - kelnos 11y ago
    I assumed he meant that his wife would get home at say 5pm, while he, with his later schedule, work work until say 7pm (and then perhaps more later when she's asleep). So by shifting his schedule earlier perhaps he stops working at 5pm as well and gets 2 more hours with her.
  - oh_sigh 11y ago
    His wife wakes up at 5AM, works until 5PM, and then goes to bed at 9:30PM. Previously, he woke up at 10AM, worked until 8PM, and went to bed around 2AM. That gives husband and wife 1.5 hours together per day, maximum. Probably less when you factor in chores, cooking, etc. If husband mvoes his schedule to 5AM also, and works until 5PM, then goes to bed at 9:30, then now he and his wife have a maximum of 4.5 hours together per day. Do you understand now?
dharma1 11y ago
true, but personally I can think more clearly after I'm well rested - rather than at the end of the day, before resting, when you're often quite tired. Still need minium external distractions for this to work, though

There are still only the same number of hours in the day, though. You're making pretty fundamental alterations to your habits in order to 'reclaim' time that isn't really lost.

djsumdog 11y ago

That's what I really had trouble with. There have been times in my life when I've been exceptionally motivated: pet projects, new girlfriend, etc. I'll wear out, get to bed at 8pm, wake up early and keep working or go to the gym. But I'm also really productive between midnight and 4am. That's where I got my best work done during University and when I quit my job last year and went on a 9 months sabbatical. How about we get rid of this horrible idea that we all need to be up early? If you're a morning person and that works for you: great. You should keep that shit up. If you don't think you are, then you should at least try it. Maybe it would work better for you. Don't discount it. But if you try it and don't really like it, then why the hell should you have to be at work at 8am? Especially in IT. Our morning commutes clog up our motorways. If people adjusted and spread out office work schedules, it would make our transportation systems that much more flexible. We don't all need to be morning people.

petke 11y ago
For me night time is lazy time. The world is asleep and it doesn't demand anything of me. So I take it easy and dont get much work done. I wake up late and have to play catch up with the world again. The few times I wake up early I have a head start on the world for once. Feels good.
- rev_bird 11y ago
  > The world is asleep and it doesn't demand anything of me. I really like night time for the same reason, but I think I interpret it in exactly the opposite way you do: Nobody is bothering me with things (or distracting me with interesting conversation and fun group things to do), so I can finally get some quiet, unbroken work time in, where I can get in the zone and work for four hours without any interruptions.

iolothebard 11y ago

He was referring to time with his spouse, so he was reclaiming time in that regard. Some time is more valuable than other time.

usaphp 11y ago
His wife is at work in the morning anyway, not sure how waking up early makes up for that?
- brandonmenc 11y ago
  Because they can both stop working around the same time.

oh_sigh 11y ago

Did you read the part about how he wanted to sync his schedule with his wifes schedule, so they could spend more time together?

usaphp 11y ago
If his wife is on morning meetings anyway - what's the point of waking up early for him? They probably see each other after her work anyway, he was awake at that time even when he had a night owl schedule. I don't see how he won any time by shifting his schedule, he still needs to do work, he just does it now while his wife is at work, before he used to work when she was sleeping.
- jacalata 11y ago
  From my own experience - he was probably getting up later, going to work later, and getting home a while after her, which is where the real 'time together' was gained (him leaving work earlier). Also a lot of people like to be winding down and going to bed together, which doesn't work if one of you is going to be up for another four hours.
- kelnos 11y ago
  I assumed he meant that his wife would get home at say 5pm, while he, with his later schedule, work work until say 7pm (and then perhaps more later when she's asleep). So by shifting his schedule earlier perhaps he stops working at 5pm as well and gets 2 more hours with her.
- oh_sigh 11y ago
  His wife wakes up at 5AM, works until 5PM, and then goes to bed at 9:30PM. Previously, he woke up at 10AM, worked until 8PM, and went to bed around 2AM. That gives husband and wife 1.5 hours together per day, maximum. Probably less when you factor in chores, cooking, etc. If husband mvoes his schedule to 5AM also, and works until 5PM, then goes to bed at 9:30, then now he and his wife have a maximum of 4.5 hours together per day. Do you understand now?

dharma1 11y ago

true, but personally I can think more clearly after I'm well rested - rather than at the end of the day, before resting, when you're often quite tired. Still need minium external distractions for this to work, though