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>So tell me, would you live in one of these suicide apartments? I would probably seek them out, as they seem to be much cheaper.
by cli 11y ago
>So tell me, would you live in one of these suicide apartments?
I would probably seek them out, as they seem to be much cheaper.
- avar 11y agoThis question paraphrased in the context of the article is basically asking whether or not you believe in ghosts. Not only would you have to believe in ghosts, but some of these apartments are in cities that were firebombed by the US in living memory, you'd have to believe in ghosts that couldn't move around and were local to specific apartments to care about this more than "were there firebombings in this area?" or "was this house constructed before WWII?".
- p1mrx 11y ago$ ping localghost
- conistonwater 11y agoping: cannot resolve localghost: Unknown ghost
- patio11 11y agoIt's more a purity thing than "do you believe in ghosts." Many cultures, including yours, have beliefs with regards to purity which are not wholly explained by physics. For example, animal fat can be used to make soap. Humans are animals. You would probably feel very unhappy if someone informed you that, unbeknownst to you, your soap had been replaced with soap made out of people. It is not a property of chemistry that your soap remembers being a human, any more than your drinking water remembers being urine last week, but you're very concerned about ex-human soap and not at all concerned about ex-urine drinking water.
- SapphireSun 11y agoYou're definitely right. I think when you try to rationalize it though, the more sophisticated argument is that in the soap example, you're creeped out because you feel like you're using a person as a means and not an end in themselves. It feels like it is disgracing someone you never met, that was physically transformed by cruel inhuman processes, which in turn disgraces yourself. In the instance of cremation, you are saying goodbye to a person and not using them as a means to an end, it is a form of respect. The individual isn't commodified on a practical level (though the funeral industry has something to say about that).
- janzer 11y agoGiven stories like this: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/city-to-drain-reservoir-after-teen-is-caught-on-tape-peeing-in-it/ http://www.cbsnews.com/news/city-to-drain-reservoir-after-te... (Notice that was the second time in just a few years because of it) I have a feeling people are only unconcerned about ex-urine water because they are unaware and trying to improve awareness is not likely to help.
- ck2 11y agoIt's not amazing people believe in ghosts so much that they believe gravity somehow affects ghosts which blows my mind. Because the earth is no longer remotely close to where the person died, not around the sun, not in the solar system, and given the universe is constantly expanding, millions of miles from where they died. So somehow ghosts are both non-corporeal yet affected by gravity.
- efes 11y agoI think another way to look at fear of ghosts is that it is a fear that something unknown about the environment contributed to the death. A house may be flawed in a subtle way that tends to lead to depression and suicide.. just as for cancers, problems like radon gas existed before they were identified. Using such a view, past deaths on the same land in a different configuration are less "ghosty" as they no longer share as much in common with the suspect environment. But by that argument, the landlord and/or builder should be paying up for their negligent design!
- pmoriarty 11y agoIf you knew a person committed suicide in your apartment, your mind might dwell on that, you might experience what some psychologists call "intrusive thoughts" of how they died, what caused them to die, the effects their deaths had on their families, maybe of your own death or that of your loved ones, or of their potential suicide, etc. How many people want to be reminded of that every time they come home, or when they see their family resting or playing in their apartment, or when guests come over and the subject of their apartment comes up, or when they just reminisce about its history? Many people actually know someone who's committed suicide themselves. How many of them want to be constantly reminded of that? Such reluctance doesn't necessarily have anything to do with believing in ghosts. On the other hand, there is something known as the "contagion heuristic"[1], which is "a psychological heuristic leading people to avoid contact with people or objects viewed as "contaminated" by previous contact with someone or something viewed as bad". There's also the "law of contagion"[2] which is "a folk belief axiom found in magical thinking which suggests that, once two people or objects have been in contact, a magical link persists between them" [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contagion_heuristic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contagion_heuristic [2] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_contagion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_contagion
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- etiam 11y agoNot necessarily only that. If I lived in one, would that have significant negative impact on my social life? Loss of status? Prejudices transfering to me as the tenant? People avoiding contact? Would it be unproblematic to invite people over?
- morgante 11y agoThere's no reason you'd have to advertise that someone died in your apartment.
- lern_too_spel 11y agoYou don't have to go to Japan to take advantage of this. California requires a death on the property of any kind in the last three years to be disclosed to potential buyers. This article says that suicides must be disclosed in Japan, which is true but misleading. Any unnatural death, including murders and death by neglect as well as suicide must be disclosed. http://japanpropertycentral.com/real-estate-faq/what-is-a-jiko-bukken-property/ http://japanpropertycentral.com/real-estate-faq/what-is-a-ji...