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Thanks. I'll try that. Chicken and I have become real close friends recently. My usual dinner is some sort of seasoned chicken breast with vegetables and someti

Thanks. I'll try that. Chicken and I have become real close friends recently. My usual dinner is some sort of seasoned chicken breast with vegetables and sometimes rice, maybe with bread crumbs if I have the caloric budget for it. I thought it would take a lot of willpower to have "only" that for dinner, but to my nice surprise, it only takes a teeny bit. (I still have thoughts about a nice juicy burger, but those thoughts are easily pushed aside). The only fear I have now is that this is some sort of phase and that I'll slowly revert to my old ways in a few months. I've been eating like shit for my entire adult life (~20 years now), so I know I'm going to have to be vigilant for a while to make the new habits stick. On the other hand, I was genuinely ignorant to the amount of calories I was eating before. I had greatly underestimated it. Now that I know what 2,000 C really looks like, my perspective has changed. And that's something that is impossible to unlearn.

beachstartup 11y ago
3k calories is exactly where i was before i started paying attention, and on my cheat days (i do sensible low-carb with periods of keto to get back on track when i regress a bit) that's exactly where i end up. i log everything i eat on MFP. i think 3k is where most people in the US eat at. it's basically the pointless snacks and carby/sugary crap that make the difference between 2k and 3k. that extra 1k calories is easy to eat, and hard to cut. quite honestly it's amazing i didn't weigh 300 pounds... a lot of people do weigh 300+. being overweight (and i still am over by about 15 lbs, slowly losing the rest) gave me a serious appreciation for the bad psychological state one must be in to really let it get that bad.
- function_seven 11y ago
  Are you me? I'm the same way. I'm not hugely overweight (6'0", skinny frame, 188 lbs). I'm also using MFP to track this stuff, and I had the same appreciation about truly obese people the moment I saw how much I was really eating. I had that same, "wow, I should be much fatter than I am!" thought. The only reason it has taken me this long to change is because my 20's body was able to handle whatever I threw at it. My 30's body now is not so capable.
  - beachstartup 11y ago
    yeah, i think a lot of people embark on this journey in their early 30's because things start to look bleak if you project your current behavior into the next decade. it was basically the 'am i or am i not going to seriously be a lifelong fatass. like for real though.' point in my life. like you kind of know, if i let this slip a few more years, there's probably no going back. i'm also doing weights with a trainer and that has drastically improved my general appearance, especially in my upper body/shoulders. simply losing weight would have produced a weak and skinnyfat version of myself.

beachstartup 11y ago

3k calories is exactly where i was before i started paying attention, and on my cheat days (i do sensible low-carb with periods of keto to get back on track when i regress a bit) that's exactly where i end up. i log everything i eat on MFP. i think 3k is where most people in the US eat at. it's basically the pointless snacks and carby/sugary crap that make the difference between 2k and 3k. that extra 1k calories is easy to eat, and hard to cut. quite honestly it's amazing i didn't weigh 300 pounds... a lot of people do weigh 300+. being overweight (and i still am over by about 15 lbs, slowly losing the rest) gave me a serious appreciation for the bad psychological state one must be in to really let it get that bad.

function_seven 11y ago
Are you me? I'm the same way. I'm not hugely overweight (6'0", skinny frame, 188 lbs). I'm also using MFP to track this stuff, and I had the same appreciation about truly obese people the moment I saw how much I was really eating. I had that same, "wow, I should be much fatter than I am!" thought. The only reason it has taken me this long to change is because my 20's body was able to handle whatever I threw at it. My 30's body now is not so capable.
- beachstartup 11y ago
  yeah, i think a lot of people embark on this journey in their early 30's because things start to look bleak if you project your current behavior into the next decade. it was basically the 'am i or am i not going to seriously be a lifelong fatass. like for real though.' point in my life. like you kind of know, if i let this slip a few more years, there's probably no going back. i'm also doing weights with a trainer and that has drastically improved my general appearance, especially in my upper body/shoulders. simply losing weight would have produced a weak and skinnyfat version of myself.