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Media Is independent in words but all the mainstream media outlets are controlled by handful of corporates (during 1990s, most of these outlets bought by few c

by kr4 11y ago

Media Is independent in words but all the mainstream media outlets are controlled by handful of corporates (during 1990s, most of these outlets bought by few corporate houses). These houses have interests related to military-industrial complex. Victory of policies layed out since over 5 decades [0] for dividing and conquering middle east for greater profits can't be let to fail just because Russia decided to save Syria and Germany/France started pondering supporting Russia [1] upon confronting the enormous wave of refugees. 0: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10580490 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10580490 1: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10718312 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10718312

jacquesm 11y ago
So we now have links between Syria, refugees, the MIC, Russia, Germany, France and somehow in the middle of that poor VW the victim of being used as the stick to push Germany back into compliance? What do you think they would have used if VW had not conveniently committed fraud?
- kr4 11y ago
  I just saw a comment by Noam Chompsky, "Americans don't know what's going on. But they don't even know that they don't know." I think "Americans" can be replaced with "people in general" (including Europeans and Asians as well)
  - jacquesm 11y ago
    It's 'Chomsky' and I can't find a reference for that quote, where did you find that comment?
    - kr4 11y ago
      It's on here http://zcomm.org/wp-content/uploads/zbooks/www/chomsky/rab/rab-2.html http://zcomm.org/wp-content/uploads/zbooks/www/chomsky/rab/r... Simple searching on google showed me on the first page (third result). The amount of truth we see is relative to the intension we're having. The rest just seems invisible to us. Few more thoughts from Chomsky related to the theme of our discussion regarding truth: “Either you repeat the same conventional doctrines everybody is saying, or else you say something true, and it will sound like it's from Neptune.” (Exactly fit for responses I got re my geo-political remark) “Everyone’s worried about stopping terrorism. Well, there’s really an easy way: Stop participating in it.” (Yay, so true. But we're more concerned about how perfect and moral our regulation structure is, that it punishes the right people with right evidence... but evidence can be shown when it's the most convenient time to show them) “It is the responsibility of intellectuals to speak the truth and expose lies.” (Who likes truth anyway?) “For the powerful, crimes are those that others commit.” ("Hey, Germany ministers are towing the line and aren't repeating our propaganda, how can we show them their place?" "Well, let's call our regulatory depts., we must be having some violation reports waiting to be show light of the day at this opportune moment. Find the one with biggest potential impact, and, and we'll have the compliance of Germany without shotting a single bullet." "Yeah, this will also set example for other European vassals, who lately tries to have independent voice. They must be shown their right place before it's too late.")

by kr4 11y ago

jacquesm 11y ago

So we now have links between Syria, refugees, the MIC, Russia, Germany, France and somehow in the middle of that poor VW the victim of being used as the stick to push Germany back into compliance? What do you think they would have used if VW had not conveniently committed fraud?

kr4 11y ago
I just saw a comment by Noam Chompsky, "Americans don't know what's going on. But they don't even know that they don't know." I think "Americans" can be replaced with "people in general" (including Europeans and Asians as well)
- jacquesm 11y ago
  It's 'Chomsky' and I can't find a reference for that quote, where did you find that comment?
  - kr4 11y ago
    It's on here http://zcomm.org/wp-content/uploads/zbooks/www/chomsky/rab/rab-2.html http://zcomm.org/wp-content/uploads/zbooks/www/chomsky/rab/r... Simple searching on google showed me on the first page (third result). The amount of truth we see is relative to the intension we're having. The rest just seems invisible to us. Few more thoughts from Chomsky related to the theme of our discussion regarding truth: “Either you repeat the same conventional doctrines everybody is saying, or else you say something true, and it will sound like it's from Neptune.” (Exactly fit for responses I got re my geo-political remark) “Everyone’s worried about stopping terrorism. Well, there’s really an easy way: Stop participating in it.” (Yay, so true. But we're more concerned about how perfect and moral our regulation structure is, that it punishes the right people with right evidence... but evidence can be shown when it's the most convenient time to show them) “It is the responsibility of intellectuals to speak the truth and expose lies.” (Who likes truth anyway?) “For the powerful, crimes are those that others commit.” ("Hey, Germany ministers are towing the line and aren't repeating our propaganda, how can we show them their place?" "Well, let's call our regulatory depts., we must be having some violation reports waiting to be show light of the day at this opportune moment. Find the one with biggest potential impact, and, and we'll have the compliance of Germany without shotting a single bullet." "Yeah, this will also set example for other European vassals, who lately tries to have independent voice. They must be shown their right place before it's too late.")