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Some people in this thread rightfully raising a valid question that this cheating would be present in models of other manufacturers so why VW was only targeted

by kr4 11y ago

Some people in this thread rightfully raising a valid question that this cheating would be present in models of other manufacturers so why VW was only targeted and that with such a big fine announced in media which toppled VW's stocks by 20% (effectively losing $100B of market value) and also causing irreparable harm to German auto industry. SO, you need to see the bigger picture here. There's a geo-political angle to it. On sept12 [0] reported: >>> Germany is surprisingly quitting the anti-Putin Alliance created by the United States: Germany now officially welcomes Moscow’s readiness to engage with Syria and launches an initiative to end the war with the Russians and the French. Thus, the stream of refugees is to be stopped. Germany put thousands of soldiers on standby. Defence Minister Ursula von der Leyen told der Spiegel, they Welcome Russia’s President Vladimir Putin’s involvement in the fight against the extremist Islamic State. It is in the common interest, to combat the IS, she said. A spokesman of the Foreign Ministry also said Germany would welcome a greater engagement of Russia in the fight against the IS. German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier even announced, with Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov and the French colleague Laurent Fabius, a push to start to end the civil war in Syria. Lavrov and Fabius are expected in Berlin on Saturday. <<< Then within a week, this VW scandal suddenly comes into public thrashing Germany major auto industry. On 22Sept [1] reported: >>> What you need to know about the Volkswagen scandal Now you see the results: Germany France etc have now joined US coalition in the name of fighting ISIS. but there's more to it, which you can read in my comment [2]. 0: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/09/12/syria-germany-breaks-out-of-u-s-alliance-against-russia/ http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/09/12/syria-germany-breaks... 1L http://www.cnbc.com/2015/09/22/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-volkswagen-scandal.html http://www.cnbc.com/2015/09/22/what-you-need-to-know-about-t... 2: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10580490 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10580490

xixi77 11y ago
Other manufacturers (e.g. BMW -- pretty sure the same is true for Audi) do not have the same issue; in fact, the original report is very clear on that matter: the issue is specific to VW. The reason is that other manufacturers rely on injecting a pollution-neutralizing compound at exhaust time (there is a separate tank for that stuff), whereas VW claimed that they have been able to design engines that do not require this (obviously costly and undesirable) step, and are clean all by themselves.
- PeterStuer 11y ago
  Audi is part of the Volkswagen group. Some Audi models are implicated in the same scandal.
mcherm 11y ago
I acknowledge that these geopolitical events are occurring at the same time as the VW scandal. But I find your (unsupported) assertion that the two are linked to be entirely and completely unbelievable. It seems to me like a baseless conspiracy theory.
- kr4 11y ago
  >>> the whole thing was initiated by a European non-profit that contracted the WVU back in 2013/2014. The EPA ignored the results for a full year. The VW CEO already resigned in April, several months before the EPA went crazy, due to it. You can join the dots now. These are back-door negotiations and arms-twistings, Neither Obama nore Merkle would publically admit to you in your face of these things. But we the public remain foolish to dismiss such an evident corelation as conspiracy. Or do you think we live in a utopian world where every official action is guided by altruistic motive? Well if yes, you may ver well see what's happening in Syria, the whole of world's major power are flighting their airforces, just to defeat bunch of terrorist? who are anyway financed by oil smuggling to countries part of the coalition .... give me a break.

by kr4 11y ago

xixi77 11y ago

Other manufacturers (e.g. BMW -- pretty sure the same is true for Audi) do not have the same issue; in fact, the original report is very clear on that matter: the issue is specific to VW. The reason is that other manufacturers rely on injecting a pollution-neutralizing compound at exhaust time (there is a separate tank for that stuff), whereas VW claimed that they have been able to design engines that do not require this (obviously costly and undesirable) step, and are clean all by themselves.

PeterStuer 11y ago
Audi is part of the Volkswagen group. Some Audi models are implicated in the same scandal.

mcherm 11y ago

I acknowledge that these geopolitical events are occurring at the same time as the VW scandal. But I find your (unsupported) assertion that the two are linked to be entirely and completely unbelievable. It seems to me like a baseless conspiracy theory.

kr4 11y ago
>>> the whole thing was initiated by a European non-profit that contracted the WVU back in 2013/2014. The EPA ignored the results for a full year. The VW CEO already resigned in April, several months before the EPA went crazy, due to it. You can join the dots now. These are back-door negotiations and arms-twistings, Neither Obama nore Merkle would publically admit to you in your face of these things. But we the public remain foolish to dismiss such an evident corelation as conspiracy. Or do you think we live in a utopian world where every official action is guided by altruistic motive? Well if yes, you may ver well see what's happening in Syria, the whole of world's major power are flighting their airforces, just to defeat bunch of terrorist? who are anyway financed by oil smuggling to countries part of the coalition .... give me a break.