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"Nationalism has a strong component of devotion, an emotional attachment, to the state." Actually, as the name itself suggests, it is about devotion to the nat

"Nationalism has a strong component of devotion, an emotional attachment, to the state." Actually, as the name itself suggests, it is about devotion to the nation not the state. Nationalism never ceased to be promoted, even after ww2, but the attention bias caused much of it to go unnoticed. The so-called "rise" of today's nationalism is in fact more of a rise in public awareness to it from (globally) opposing sides.

Alupis 11y ago
> Actually, as the name itself suggests, it is about devotion to the nation not the state Nations are called States commonly. Sometimes even referred to as "Nation-States". The USA is unique in that we have states within a nation, rather than a single nation state and/or provinces.
- hackuser 11y ago
  Technically they are two different things, in the language of political science. I'm don't know exact definitions, but a nation is something a group of people have an emotional attachment to, a cultural entity; a state is a political entity. If you're lucky, the two coincide and you a have a nation state. The U.S. usage of 'state' has a different meaning. Maybe when the states were more independent entities (with their own currencies, militias, etc.) around the time of the Revolution, it carried the standard meaning.
- userulluipeste 11y ago
  "Nations are called States commonly." "The USA is unique in that we have states within a nation" I understand where you are coming from, but I have to disagree that nation and state is the same. They are different as concepts (state is organized territory, nation is people), and although usually states and nations reside in roughly the same place, not all of them do! USA have managed to develop itself as a nation to some degree, but there are enough countries out there that didn't! To understand this it's enough to look at the states with separatist movements or in general at ones in which the feeling of appurtenance to the country is very low to say the least. There are people inside the same country very foreign to each other (speaking from group attachment perspective), close to the report between any given two foreign people on the planet. Is India a state? Well, it has states within it, like USA, and its overall organization is like a state too. Is India a nation? Not really! People inside it fought together for independence, and they may have common problems like a nation does (defense, foreign policy, etc), but the ethnic groups in there although living peacefully with each other don't really adhere much to something "national". Not yet at least. It's the same with Iraq, a state inhabited by different ethnic groups which the head statesmen failed to make a nation from. The same for a bunch of African states. Nation is different from the state.
- tedks 11y ago
  Comments like these are why I think it's a little scary that schools that focus on broad knowledge of the world, including liberal arts as well as sciences, are being dismantled and turned into vocational training schools. Is this a troll comment? Are you really so ignorant of the concept of a nation as opposed to a state? Do you really think that the US is "unique in that it has states within a nation"? Have you ever taken a political science class? Or even an American history class that talked about Mexico?

Alupis 11y ago

> Actually, as the name itself suggests, it is about devotion to the nation not the state Nations are called States commonly. Sometimes even referred to as "Nation-States". The USA is unique in that we have states within a nation, rather than a single nation state and/or provinces.

hackuser 11y ago
Technically they are two different things, in the language of political science. I'm don't know exact definitions, but a nation is something a group of people have an emotional attachment to, a cultural entity; a state is a political entity. If you're lucky, the two coincide and you a have a nation state. The U.S. usage of 'state' has a different meaning. Maybe when the states were more independent entities (with their own currencies, militias, etc.) around the time of the Revolution, it carried the standard meaning.
userulluipeste 11y ago
"Nations are called States commonly." "The USA is unique in that we have states within a nation" I understand where you are coming from, but I have to disagree that nation and state is the same. They are different as concepts (state is organized territory, nation is people), and although usually states and nations reside in roughly the same place, not all of them do! USA have managed to develop itself as a nation to some degree, but there are enough countries out there that didn't! To understand this it's enough to look at the states with separatist movements or in general at ones in which the feeling of appurtenance to the country is very low to say the least. There are people inside the same country very foreign to each other (speaking from group attachment perspective), close to the report between any given two foreign people on the planet. Is India a state? Well, it has states within it, like USA, and its overall organization is like a state too. Is India a nation? Not really! People inside it fought together for independence, and they may have common problems like a nation does (defense, foreign policy, etc), but the ethnic groups in there although living peacefully with each other don't really adhere much to something "national". Not yet at least. It's the same with Iraq, a state inhabited by different ethnic groups which the head statesmen failed to make a nation from. The same for a bunch of African states. Nation is different from the state.
tedks 11y ago
Comments like these are why I think it's a little scary that schools that focus on broad knowledge of the world, including liberal arts as well as sciences, are being dismantled and turned into vocational training schools. Is this a troll comment? Are you really so ignorant of the concept of a nation as opposed to a state? Do you really think that the US is "unique in that it has states within a nation"? Have you ever taken a political science class? Or even an American history class that talked about Mexico?