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You question a change to a status quo but ignore that the status quo deserves to be questioned just the same. The terms are clearly, obviously and unquestionab

by DasIch 11y ago

You question a change to a status quo but ignore that the status quo deserves to be questioned just the same. The terms are clearly, obviously and unquestionably inspired by actual human slavery. That's in bad taste at best. Using the master/slave terminology so casually further weakens their original meaning. Not using the terms master/slave in a technology concept in no way erases awareness of the problem. Frankly to defend usage of these terms by suggesting using them in anyway promotes awareness and helps the victims of slavery, is disgusting. That's clearly not the case and not the goal of those defending the usage of these terms.

kbenson 11y ago
> The terms are clearly, obviously and unquestionably inspired by actual human slavery. I did not say they weren't I just said they were accurate in many aspects of what they were describing. > Not using the terms master/slave in a technology concept in no way erases awareness of the problem. I did not say removing them erases awareness, I said (in summary) that it provides a placebo effect that keeps people from doing something that actually matters. I agree removing them will not affect awareness of the problem, because they have no relation to the problem. > Frankly to defend usage of these terms by suggesting using them in anyway promotes awareness and helps the victims of slavery, is disgusting. Then it's a good thing I didn't do that then. > You question a change to a status quo but ignore that the status quo deserves to be questioned just the same. Anyone wanting to change the status quo should not focus on this specific case to the detriment of similar ones, if they really care about it. Why stop at master/slave, when there's also captive as in captive portal, or for that matter serve, since one original meaning in the root latin was "slave",and all we care about is the original meaning, not how it evolved over time to mean additional things (such as how slave as a verb can mean to work hard), right?

by DasIch 11y ago

kbenson 11y ago

> The terms are clearly, obviously and unquestionably inspired by actual human slavery. I did not say they weren't I just said they were accurate in many aspects of what they were describing. > Not using the terms master/slave in a technology concept in no way erases awareness of the problem. I did not say removing them erases awareness, I said (in summary) that it provides a placebo effect that keeps people from doing something that actually matters. I agree removing them will not affect awareness of the problem, because they have no relation to the problem. > Frankly to defend usage of these terms by suggesting using them in anyway promotes awareness and helps the victims of slavery, is disgusting. Then it's a good thing I didn't do that then. > You question a change to a status quo but ignore that the status quo deserves to be questioned just the same. Anyone wanting to change the status quo should not focus on this specific case to the detriment of similar ones, if they really care about it. Why stop at master/slave, when there's also captive as in captive portal, or for that matter serve, since one original meaning in the root latin was "slave",and all we care about is the original meaning, not how it evolved over time to mean additional things (such as how slave as a verb can mean to work hard), right?