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Are you justifying unnecessary force and unnecessary force multipliers by invoking hypothetical situations? This is madness. When any hypothetical situation is

Are you justifying unnecessary force and unnecessary force multipliers by invoking hypothetical situations? This is madness. When any hypothetical situation is a valid excuse for use of force, all uses of force will fall back on hypothetical situations as justification. And most do, when it comes to the police and use of force. Have you ever seen the South Park episode where they forbid the killing of animals unless in self defense, so hunters shout "it's coming right for us!" before lighting them up with automatic gun fire? Yeah, this is like that.

crusso 11y ago
Go back and read the post to which I was responding where the author stated that in his mind he thought that officers signed up for a dangerous job knowingly because they're heroic and self sacrificing. I'm saying it's a job, in many ways similar to your job and my job where putting all this heroic self-sacrificing burden on them isn't fair. Interesting how you criticized me for creating hypotheticals which are almost direct quotes from everyday stories on HN and then tried to prove your point by referring to a South Park episode - a cartoon that features fictional characters doing outrageous things for the sake of comedy.
- themartorana 11y ago
  I read it, and I disagree with your evaluation of the situation. There is risk with all jobs, and for cops, firefighters, etc., that risk can be great. You referenced Eric Gardner, which really sat poorly with me. It's pretty universally accepted that he was murdered by cops with no care for the public or their constant overuse of force. It was a terrible example. South Park is not just a cartoon - as with many shows like it, it's pretty heavy with political commentary - which this is.
  - crusso 11y ago
    It's pretty universally accepted that he was murdered by cops Do you have some polling data on that? That's not at all the impression I get from the wide variety of news sites that I peruse. Regarding South Park, yeah, I know all that. I love SP. But you were the one criticizing hypotheticals.

crusso 11y ago

Go back and read the post to which I was responding where the author stated that in his mind he thought that officers signed up for a dangerous job knowingly because they're heroic and self sacrificing. I'm saying it's a job, in many ways similar to your job and my job where putting all this heroic self-sacrificing burden on them isn't fair. Interesting how you criticized me for creating hypotheticals which are almost direct quotes from everyday stories on HN and then tried to prove your point by referring to a South Park episode - a cartoon that features fictional characters doing outrageous things for the sake of comedy.

themartorana 11y ago
I read it, and I disagree with your evaluation of the situation. There is risk with all jobs, and for cops, firefighters, etc., that risk can be great. You referenced Eric Gardner, which really sat poorly with me. It's pretty universally accepted that he was murdered by cops with no care for the public or their constant overuse of force. It was a terrible example. South Park is not just a cartoon - as with many shows like it, it's pretty heavy with political commentary - which this is.
- crusso 11y ago
  It's pretty universally accepted that he was murdered by cops Do you have some polling data on that? That's not at all the impression I get from the wide variety of news sites that I peruse. Regarding South Park, yeah, I know all that. I love SP. But you were the one criticizing hypotheticals.