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I think the long plan here is what Tim Cook specifically said when announcing Apple Pay - eventually, the iPhone will replace your wallet and keys. This in turn

by tammer 11y ago

I think the long plan here is what Tim Cook specifically said when announcing Apple Pay - eventually, the iPhone will replace your wallet and keys. This in turn will make iPhone an essential part of life - a necessary goal for a product so successful to continue growing. Expect an identity product in the near to mid future.

bennyg 11y ago
That really sucks when you run out of battery then. Just don't understand the fascination to replace everything - maybe that's the Eagle Scout in me, but I'd rather have a backup plan, aka keys, wallet, etc on me than try and minimize pocket clutter.
coldpie 11y ago
I'll never own an iPhone, so unless they plan to extend Apple Pay to other platforms, no, it won't be replacing my wallet or keys ever.
untog 11y ago
Sounds awful. What happens when I lose it, I lose my entire life? Battery dies? Drop it in the toilet? Having all the important aspects of your life a little distributed isn't the worst thing in the world.
- eanzenberg 11y ago
  The part of the iphone which includes "you" is stored in the cloud. You only lose/damage the hardware part, so get another one and backup from the cloud. Currently more expensive than when losing a set of keys or wallet but may not be in the future.
  - bennyg 11y ago
    Meh - maybe. Imagine this scenario: You're out at a restaurant, and you drove there. Your phone dies somehow, either dropped in toilet, or what have you. How do you do the following? - Pay for dinner - Drive your car, since your keys were in your phone - Pay for a cab since you can no longer drive - Pay for a phone replacement at an Apple Store etc, etc.
    - virusduck 11y ago
      Same if your wallet falls out of your pocket
      - untog 11y ago
        But your wallet can't lose power or suffer water damage (to the cards at least).
      - bennyg 11y ago
        Yeah but then I still have keys to run home and pick up an extra debit/credit/cash I have and can continue with only minor hiccups.
  - untog 11y ago
    ...what? What makes you think that getting a replacement for iPhone hardware will be cheaper than buying a new wallet? Because I don't see it. Plus, I'm now going to trust all of my sensitive data to Apple's cloud storage? No thanks.
  - kalleboo 11y ago
    It's an actual selling point that Apple Pay stuff is only stored on the Secure Enclave on the device, and not in the cloud. I'm sure any house key type stuff Apple would implement would work the same way. Lose your phone and you lose your payment instrument and your keys... no thanks.

by tammer 11y ago

bennyg 11y ago

That really sucks when you run out of battery then. Just don't understand the fascination to replace everything - maybe that's the Eagle Scout in me, but I'd rather have a backup plan, aka keys, wallet, etc on me than try and minimize pocket clutter.

coldpie 11y ago

I'll never own an iPhone, so unless they plan to extend Apple Pay to other platforms, no, it won't be replacing my wallet or keys ever.

untog 11y ago

Sounds awful. What happens when I lose it, I lose my entire life? Battery dies? Drop it in the toilet? Having all the important aspects of your life a little distributed isn't the worst thing in the world.

eanzenberg 11y ago
The part of the iphone which includes "you" is stored in the cloud. You only lose/damage the hardware part, so get another one and backup from the cloud. Currently more expensive than when losing a set of keys or wallet but may not be in the future.
- bennyg 11y ago
  Meh - maybe. Imagine this scenario: You're out at a restaurant, and you drove there. Your phone dies somehow, either dropped in toilet, or what have you. How do you do the following? - Pay for dinner - Drive your car, since your keys were in your phone - Pay for a cab since you can no longer drive - Pay for a phone replacement at an Apple Store etc, etc.
  - virusduck 11y ago
    Same if your wallet falls out of your pocket
    - untog 11y ago
      But your wallet can't lose power or suffer water damage (to the cards at least).
    - bennyg 11y ago
      Yeah but then I still have keys to run home and pick up an extra debit/credit/cash I have and can continue with only minor hiccups.
- untog 11y ago
  ...what? What makes you think that getting a replacement for iPhone hardware will be cheaper than buying a new wallet? Because I don't see it. Plus, I'm now going to trust all of my sensitive data to Apple's cloud storage? No thanks.
- kalleboo 11y ago
  It's an actual selling point that Apple Pay stuff is only stored on the Secure Enclave on the device, and not in the cloud. I'm sure any house key type stuff Apple would implement would work the same way. Lose your phone and you lose your payment instrument and your keys... no thanks.