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April Zero v3

303 points by aprilzero 11y ago

daok 11y ago
The UI is very nice, very interesting. I am curious if this could fit with the Microsoft Band.
vessenes 11y ago
Super cool theme. The company seems to be at https://gyrosco.pe/ https://gyrosco.pe/. They lost me at the facebook login, but it made me think about privacy and user-defined privacy a bit. Gyroscope's pitch says you can share or instead keep everything private. I think a service like this would be a lot more appealing to me (and it is undeniably cool) if the data were kept encrypted on server, and only available on my end device. I suppose the same thing could be done with some sort of multiparty destination encryption for sharing. Until then, my data is just getting monetized for any party that will pay gyroscope. Any comments from your team, aprilzero?
- robbles 11y ago
  I don't think this service is targeted at tinfoil-hat-wearing types. The original prototype, after all, was intended for sharing the data publically on the web. Making it private and secure would be a totally different product.
  - vessenes 11y ago
    Well, it's clearly not aimed at privacy-oriented people. But, you imply that's a tiny minority -- I take exception to that viewpoint. Many 'non-tech' types I talk to have a strong aversion to the idea of this sort of information going out broadly because they rightly believe they don't understand the ins and outs. So, the target market may grow quite a lot with a clear and understandable privacy story.
- aprilzero 11y ago
  Thanks! First of all, we're not selling any data, nor do we ever plan to. We do make money by offering a pro subscription--this new design is one of the features, along with things like custom domains and access to our Healthkit app. We've already gotten a few dozen upgrades today, which is really exciting and lets me confidently say things like "we will never sell your data". We believe that sharing of this data is an important part of the experience for most people. Of course you don't have to, but for many people that is the first thing they want to do. Perhaps only with your family or a few close friends, and not the whole world, but a single-player experience that only exists on your device would be missing many of the experiences that we think are core to Gyroscope. A small percent of users have made their profiles public, and many of those have set up a custom domain name and are very excited about sharing it and having a personal website that reflects who they are. Having the data in the cloud makes that use-case possible, though of course doesn't require it. Our new mobile apps are also taking a slightly different approach, where all of the source data is private but allows for curation and customization, and you can export individual images with aspects that you want people to be able to see. I think that will be the right balance of privacy and control for most people, while still allowing sharing of things they want to highlight. Making my account completely public has been an interesting experiment. When I first did it last year, I wasn't sure what to expect. Overall it has been very positive experience, and my current opinion is that more transparency is generally good. The location data is probably the most sensitive out of all the things we track. For other people, weight or age have been concerns, and we've added settings to fully hide those. There are things I consider very private and wouldn't want anyone else to see — like my messages, emails, finances, etc. — but I am personally happy to release the data on the site, like what my heart rate is or how much I slept yesterday. That balance will vary for everyone, which is why I have been experimenting mostly on myself before recommending things to others. The location data is probably the most sensitive, and we've been playing around with other themes that show different combinations of data and keep more of that private. We might add other login options in the future, but currently we've found Facebook to be a great experience because we can boot up your basic account info (timezone, name, cover photo, age, etc.) without needing all that to be manually entered. It would be a terrible experience if the first 5 minutes on Gyroscope were just spent typing in basic facts about yourself. One of our big challenges with Gyroscope is how to passively power all this stuff without creating any more work for the user. Our goal has been to go through the whole experience without ever needing to use your keyboard to type anything, maybe with the exception of setting your username.
  - oldmanjay 11y ago
    > We've already gotten a few dozen upgrades today, which is really exciting and lets me confidently say things like "we will never sell your data". This wording makes it seem like that data sale starts as soon as your revenue stops making you happy
    - deleted 11y ago
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    - aprilzero 11y ago
      my point was we're working now to try to figure out the right mechanism — whether it is pro subscriptions or selling hardware, etc. — so we don't end up in a position where we'll need to sell data later.
      - state 11y ago
        > end up in a position where we'll need to sell data later The point is that there's nothing structurally preventing you from selling data later. Unfortunately that's not a great reassurance, as much as one may want to believe in the project. To be clear: I think this is an interesting undertaking and you guys are producing good stuff. This structural problem is concerning though, and deserves some serious thought.
        jtheory 11y ago
        It's possible to set up encryption model where it will be particularly hard to sell data later -- this is one of the things we've spent a decent amount of time building in the company I work for, for this reason. No, we're not selling data, and we're actively working to block that pathway in future even if the leadership has completely changed. E.g., data at rest for private accounts is encrypted with per-account keys based at some level on the user's login, and internally can't be decrypted until the user is signs in next.
  - vessenes 11y ago
    Well, in my case, I deleted my facebook a few years ago, so you actually did lose me, not just as part of some public stand. I think it's interesting you're publishing your data, and I'm glad you're happy with what you're publishing -- it totally makes sense. User-defined privacy is an awesome thing. It remains my proposal that you consider actually cutting off your own access to customer data unless they decide to publish it, essentially extending that ability you have while in control of the system to your customers. I think you can see from some of the comments in this chain that people aren't so trusting as you feel you deserve. And, of course, if someday you or the company needs the revenue, then it might be nice to have already, when not under duress, made a not easily-revocable decision about the ways you'll choose to monetize user data. Or, obviously, it might hamstring your plans.
fieldforceapp 11y ago
Big change since v2, congratulations. Any plans to commercialize? Would like to see this applied to athletic team performance monitoring.
- chejazi 11y ago
  Haven't signed up, but https://gyrosco.pe/features/helix/ https://gyrosco.pe/features/helix/ indicates there's a "Pro" version.
- aprilzero 11y ago
  Thanks! This is actually already available, and a demo of our new Gyroscope Pro offering, which is $7 a month and includes things like this new theme, custom domain name support (which is how I have it going to aprilzero.com), our healthkit iPhone app to power it, etc. Check it out at https://gyrosco.pe/ https://gyrosco.pe/ We want to build this as something that anyone can just go and sign up for and start using. I would love to get more athletes using this. We recently released a running app powered by the Gyroscope data — (see gyro.run) — and it's been really exciting to see people use it to share marathons, training, etc. We still don't have a good solution for things like gym training, which are hard to passively track, but that's something we're definitely thinking about.
chejazi 11y ago
How will you measure Glucose levels?
- aprilzero 11y ago
  Probably sano.co — very excited for the day when that is integrated and works in realtime
hunvreus 11y ago
Looks sharp, definitely a lot of great work on design. I just can't seem to see the value in it; what actionable or information do you get out of this? I've tracked my movements with OpenPaths [1] in the past and had fun building a couple data visualizations out of it (I love the fact that others can request access to anonymized data collected by OpenPaths). I just have no anecdotal or empirical evidence of users putting this data to good use. If anything, folks I've seen using Fitbit/FuelBand could use a bit more exercise and a better diet. People tracking their sleep activity tend to stay late and have poor sleeping habits (for example). Do you really need a fancy dissection of your every move and interaction to even know what you should be doing with yourself? [1]: https://openpaths.cc https://openpaths.cc
- rbinv 11y ago
  Agreed. This is the problem with pretty much all "health trackers": how actionable are the data and visualization? Yes, you need to measure stuff to improve it, but still, a step counter is like a website hit counter and has little actionable value in and of itself.
  - samstave 11y ago
    What if you made a white labeled incentive health tracking app that can be used by schools to set contests for activities each week. You can have prizes or incentives set for people individually and as groups. "Who ran the farthest?" "Who lost the most weight over the school year" "Who is eating the best" And allow competition groups in each between friends as well, e.g. A competition for all students to run or bike, but I can do an individual group challenge with just my friends too... It might be a good way to get value and start setting good habits at younger ages.
    - 2arrs2ells 11y ago
      If anyone wants to do this, let me know (contact info in profile). My startup (Clever, YC S12) has APIs that'd make the school part incredibly easy.
Cshelton 11y ago
I was just thinking about the UI on a lot of shows/movies and how rarely we see any UI like it in the real world. Even those 'FBI databases mainframes...' that a character hacked into do not look anything like that in real life. This is pretty cool and fits in well in 'Hollywood'. Now I want to find a project that I can actually use a similar UI on haha.
- roymurdock 11y ago
  When v1 got posted (about a year ago?) one of Anand's (the creator) roommates chimed in on HN, saying that they had watched Iron Man together and that Anand had been taking notes on the UI/UX the whole time which he incorporated into his design. I imagine you'd be able to find more movie inspiration in the design if you look closely.
  - Cshelton 11y ago
    Oh I def see that inspiration. I've been watching "Arrow" recently and they have a lot of interesting UI on that show too.
- gkoberger 11y ago
  Here's some more info on the creation: https://blog.gyrosco.pe/the-making-of-april-zero-877612ca3d24#ed93 https://blog.gyrosco.pe/the-making-of-april-zero-877612ca3d2...
- arscan 11y ago
  I love the 'Hollywood' look as well, and a recent hobby of mine has been to recreate some of my favorite ones for the web. It has been a great learning experience. Tron Legacy: http://www.robscanlon.com/encom-boardroom/ http://www.robscanlon.com/encom-boardroom/ Guardians of the Galaxy: http://www.robscanlon.com/about/ http://www.robscanlon.com/about/ Wargames: http://www.robscanlon.com/github-wargames/ http://www.robscanlon.com/github-wargames/ It's interesting how certain techniques seem to come up over and over again... like they almost always use complex intro/exit animations for every element and additive blending over dark backdrops.
robbles 11y ago
> 1.4 hours on Gyroscopedev:5000 Looks like someone's been working on the dev version :)
artursapek 11y ago
This is the most San Francisco thing I've ever seen
- zbraniecki 11y ago
  As a Pole living in San Francisco I don't even know if I should be proud or ashamed, but you're totally right :)
  - Jonovono 11y ago
    Why ashamed?
- trymas 11y ago
  This will be my new go to sentence to describe hip/trendy things. Talking about site itself, design looks stunning and impressive - lots of work in it. But as tool itself, I do not see much value in it. I have scales at home to measure my weight, and sports watch to track exercises. Also whole tracking is way too detail. I can see my health trends in no less than a week, but usually in a time scale of months. Also this tracking sucks my time, attention, etc., and it probably won't tell anything if I have some scary illness growing inside me until I can tell it myself, without any tracking. Finally, most of devices used have accuracy problems, if you want to track your heart rate in detail you must use a chest band, not a wrist one. All in all it's just a very very cool toy. It needs too much attention from user. Too many devices to manage/charge/connect/wear, etc.
namelezz 11y ago
The UI is nice but it runs very slow on my FF.
nkozyra 11y ago
I love the UX but I still find the self-quantification data shallow. Time as a measurement of efficiency is inherently flawed, for example. And there's (as best I can tell) no goal setting nor recommendations for meeting goals based on prior successes and failures. That's still the big gap in self-quantification. In the mean time we're just making prettier charts.
- artifaxx 11y ago
  I have been thinking about this too. I agree that time is only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to measuring efficiency. Do you think measuring how many to do list items someone completes would be a better metric?
  - nkozyra 11y ago
    Of course, but whenever you skew from passive acquisition of data to a system that requires active participation you increase the likelihood of inaccurate or incomplete data.
jm4 11y ago
Why in the world would I want to connect this to Facebook? You really need an option to sign up with email. Other than that... Very cool looking design. Looks like it would be interesting to try. I like the integration with other apps and sensors. Lots of potential.
Fastidious 11y ago
Facebook account required.
avitzurel 11y ago
Looks awesome. I am not sure this is your target market, but using TrainingPeaks as an integration will solve a lot of problems for athletes and coaches. TrainingPeaks is the number one tool today for serious athletes, especially ones that have coaches and teams.
ThomPete 11y ago
This looks good, but the real value would be in an AI monitoring you in the background, rather than yourself having to look at your stats. In other words it suffer a little bit from the hacking in movies syndrome. The real interesting application is the continues monitoring by the system not by me. That kind of defeats the purpose.
googletron 11y ago
Here is some of the data collected during my work out this morning in the new mobile app coming out soon. https://instagram.com/p/_H22dosEM9/ https://instagram.com/p/_H22dosEM9/ I have been using this product as soon as I could join, then joined the company few months after. There is definite improvement in my health and focus. As a weightlifter, it's especially useful and awesome to see after a work out. Or whatever you do to keep you active. And if you haven't started make a goal of taking a walk or light jog! That's streaks keep your motivated to improve! Check out other stuff here at https://gyrosco.pe/myusuf3 https://gyrosco.pe/myusuf3 Give it a shot and use the data to improve, set short term goals and strive towards them, the differences you will see are incredible.
DiabloD3 11y ago
My only problem with Gyroscope is there is still no alternative logins. I don't use Facebook, and I don't want to make a login for them just to use it.
Glyptodon 11y ago
Looks cool and useful, but I'd never want a 3rd party to have that dataset. Could care less about privacy policies. (They're meaningless.) On a different level, it's very much not clear from the site itself what hardware you need to have to get all the various metrics it's displaying.
ilurk 11y ago
Do you still have the previous versions of the site? I did like the places/travel pages.
wppick 11y ago
I love the direction that this project is going in. I think a future where you can monitor your body in real time and use that data to make decision about what to eat, treat medical conditions in their very stages, maximize energy, etc. I think body chemistry is still a huge unknown area that I would love to see explored. Can you monitor the body and sense DNA damage and possibly be able to attribute it to something that you can change. Can you measure the levels of various chemicals in your body to find an imbalance? Fuck 140 characters, this is the direction the minds of our brightest people should be going in
sktrdie 11y ago
What tech did you use for developing the interface? Any framework, library, architecture (thinking React/Flux/Angular) or was it done by scratch?
- jameslk 11y ago
  Based on my quick poking around, there doesn't seem to be any special framework. It just looks like jQuery and manual DOM manipulation for the most part, with the code organized around a typical OO design.
vikram360 11y ago
I vaguely remember seeing the homepage of a quantified self nerd that showed all his live stats - ecg, hydration, activity and stuff like that. I can't seem to find it though. It was absolutely beautiful. Then again, like the other arguments made here, I don't know what one can do
- wdmeldon 11y ago
  I'm pretty sure it was this. April Zero has hit the front page of HN before.
pookieinc 11y ago
Really beautiful work, I'd love to see a technical write-up on how this was achieved and would definitely follow something like that. I'm interested in joining this, however I don't have such a wrist device. Which tracker would be best for receiving the most accurate data? Is there a recommended tracker (Fitbit vs. Jawbone vs. etc.) that provides more data, so this app can track more things for the user?
- aprilzero 11y ago
  iPhones for the past few years have actually been tracking steps and other data in the background & storing it in Healthkit. You won't be able to get heart rate, but a lot of our views can be powered with just software. Our new healthkit app (gyrosco.pe/app, currently in beta) loads steps from the iPhone, and we also integrate with other apps like Moves which also run on the phone. The idea is you can get started within just a few minutes and not need to buy anything. We can also backfill the last year of data so you don't start with an empty site. Then you can start to add hardware to get more data you care about, like a wifi scale or heart rate monitor. There are many other apps that also write to healthkit, like sleep tracking apps Sleep++ / Sleep Cycle, which will then show up.
pookieinc 11y ago
Really beautiful work, I'd love to see a technical write-up on how this was achieved and would definitely follow something like that. I'm interested in joining this, however I don't have such a wrist device. Which tracker would be best for receiving the most accurate data? Is there a recommended tracker (Fitbit vs. Jawbone vs. etc.) that provides more data, so this app can track more things for the user?
Rodeoclash 11y ago
Make it work in realtime, add a camera feed and you would have realised the Colonial Marines mission screens from the APC in aliens. http://www.robf.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Aliens-A2S7-screens.png http://www.robf.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Aliens-A2S...
Raphael 11y ago
Oh, another mystery-meat menu.
KenanSulayman 11y ago
I like it and I upgraded. Thanks!
desireco42 11y ago
It looks cool, but I still don't see how this site will give me more info then in my example my Basis website. It claims it improves productivity but I fail to see how it would do that, aside me analysing graphs, that tends to waste time... Anyhow, if anyone has good info that would help me understand this, I would appreciate it. It is really impressive site.
anant90 11y ago
"What you measure is what you get." Just wanted to say thanks for building this out. It'll be great to be able to see custom metrics in the dashboard which the user can enter themselves, and yes, the app can remind the user to enter them. This came to my mind since I can imagine people wanting to track body fat% or other specific body measurements which can't just be picked up by a tracking device, nor can be found in Apple's Health App.
bl4ckdu5t 11y ago
Splendid interface. I'll never stop saying I'm scared of the future but we have to embrace it. I am paranoid to use this as there isn't a TOS or maybe it's just me that couldn't find any but what if early sign-ups will just be experiments for them to work on? what if there's some way this affects the users later?
0x54MUR41 11y ago
DISCLAIMER: I don't mean to promote an application This application reminds me about a mobile application that is similar with this. An application that called "Exist" [1]. Exist tracks everything in one place. It tracks your fitness data and other services connected with yours. [1]: https://exist.io/ https://exist.io/
_arc 11y ago
What's with the UI here? Sure, it looks nice, but do you need all that fanciness for just a health dashboard?

303 points by aprilzero 11y ago

daok 11y ago

The UI is very nice, very interesting. I am curious if this could fit with the Microsoft Band.

Super cool theme. The company seems to be at https://gyrosco.pe/ https://gyrosco.pe/. They lost me at the facebook login, but it made me think about privacy and user-defined privacy a bit. Gyroscope's pitch says you can share or instead keep everything private. I think a service like this would be a lot more appealing to me (and it is undeniably cool) if the data were kept encrypted on server, and only available on my end device. I suppose the same thing could be done with some sort of multiparty destination encryption for sharing. Until then, my data is just getting monetized for any party that will pay gyroscope. Any comments from your team, aprilzero?

robbles 11y ago
I don't think this service is targeted at tinfoil-hat-wearing types. The original prototype, after all, was intended for sharing the data publically on the web. Making it private and secure would be a totally different product.
- vessenes 11y ago
  Well, it's clearly not aimed at privacy-oriented people. But, you imply that's a tiny minority -- I take exception to that viewpoint. Many 'non-tech' types I talk to have a strong aversion to the idea of this sort of information going out broadly because they rightly believe they don't understand the ins and outs. So, the target market may grow quite a lot with a clear and understandable privacy story.
aprilzero 11y ago
Thanks! First of all, we're not selling any data, nor do we ever plan to. We do make money by offering a pro subscription--this new design is one of the features, along with things like custom domains and access to our Healthkit app. We've already gotten a few dozen upgrades today, which is really exciting and lets me confidently say things like "we will never sell your data". We believe that sharing of this data is an important part of the experience for most people. Of course you don't have to, but for many people that is the first thing they want to do. Perhaps only with your family or a few close friends, and not the whole world, but a single-player experience that only exists on your device would be missing many of the experiences that we think are core to Gyroscope. A small percent of users have made their profiles public, and many of those have set up a custom domain name and are very excited about sharing it and having a personal website that reflects who they are. Having the data in the cloud makes that use-case possible, though of course doesn't require it. Our new mobile apps are also taking a slightly different approach, where all of the source data is private but allows for curation and customization, and you can export individual images with aspects that you want people to be able to see. I think that will be the right balance of privacy and control for most people, while still allowing sharing of things they want to highlight. Making my account completely public has been an interesting experiment. When I first did it last year, I wasn't sure what to expect. Overall it has been very positive experience, and my current opinion is that more transparency is generally good. The location data is probably the most sensitive out of all the things we track. For other people, weight or age have been concerns, and we've added settings to fully hide those. There are things I consider very private and wouldn't want anyone else to see — like my messages, emails, finances, etc. — but I am personally happy to release the data on the site, like what my heart rate is or how much I slept yesterday. That balance will vary for everyone, which is why I have been experimenting mostly on myself before recommending things to others. The location data is probably the most sensitive, and we've been playing around with other themes that show different combinations of data and keep more of that private. We might add other login options in the future, but currently we've found Facebook to be a great experience because we can boot up your basic account info (timezone, name, cover photo, age, etc.) without needing all that to be manually entered. It would be a terrible experience if the first 5 minutes on Gyroscope were just spent typing in basic facts about yourself. One of our big challenges with Gyroscope is how to passively power all this stuff without creating any more work for the user. Our goal has been to go through the whole experience without ever needing to use your keyboard to type anything, maybe with the exception of setting your username.
- oldmanjay 11y ago
  > We've already gotten a few dozen upgrades today, which is really exciting and lets me confidently say things like "we will never sell your data". This wording makes it seem like that data sale starts as soon as your revenue stops making you happy
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  - aprilzero 11y ago
    my point was we're working now to try to figure out the right mechanism — whether it is pro subscriptions or selling hardware, etc. — so we don't end up in a position where we'll need to sell data later.
    - state 11y ago
      > end up in a position where we'll need to sell data later The point is that there's nothing structurally preventing you from selling data later. Unfortunately that's not a great reassurance, as much as one may want to believe in the project. To be clear: I think this is an interesting undertaking and you guys are producing good stuff. This structural problem is concerning though, and deserves some serious thought.
      - jtheory 11y ago
        It's possible to set up encryption model where it will be particularly hard to sell data later -- this is one of the things we've spent a decent amount of time building in the company I work for, for this reason. No, we're not selling data, and we're actively working to block that pathway in future even if the leadership has completely changed. E.g., data at rest for private accounts is encrypted with per-account keys based at some level on the user's login, and internally can't be decrypted until the user is signs in next.
- vessenes 11y ago
  Well, in my case, I deleted my facebook a few years ago, so you actually did lose me, not just as part of some public stand. I think it's interesting you're publishing your data, and I'm glad you're happy with what you're publishing -- it totally makes sense. User-defined privacy is an awesome thing. It remains my proposal that you consider actually cutting off your own access to customer data unless they decide to publish it, essentially extending that ability you have while in control of the system to your customers. I think you can see from some of the comments in this chain that people aren't so trusting as you feel you deserve. And, of course, if someday you or the company needs the revenue, then it might be nice to have already, when not under duress, made a not easily-revocable decision about the ways you'll choose to monetize user data. Or, obviously, it might hamstring your plans.

fieldforceapp 11y ago

Big change since v2, congratulations. Any plans to commercialize? Would like to see this applied to athletic team performance monitoring.

chejazi 11y ago
Haven't signed up, but https://gyrosco.pe/features/helix/ https://gyrosco.pe/features/helix/ indicates there's a "Pro" version.
aprilzero 11y ago
Thanks! This is actually already available, and a demo of our new Gyroscope Pro offering, which is $7 a month and includes things like this new theme, custom domain name support (which is how I have it going to aprilzero.com), our healthkit iPhone app to power it, etc. Check it out at https://gyrosco.pe/ https://gyrosco.pe/ We want to build this as something that anyone can just go and sign up for and start using. I would love to get more athletes using this. We recently released a running app powered by the Gyroscope data — (see gyro.run) — and it's been really exciting to see people use it to share marathons, training, etc. We still don't have a good solution for things like gym training, which are hard to passively track, but that's something we're definitely thinking about.

chejazi 11y ago

How will you measure Glucose levels?

aprilzero 11y ago
Probably sano.co — very excited for the day when that is integrated and works in realtime

hunvreus 11y ago

Looks sharp, definitely a lot of great work on design. I just can't seem to see the value in it; what actionable or information do you get out of this? I've tracked my movements with OpenPaths [1] in the past and had fun building a couple data visualizations out of it (I love the fact that others can request access to anonymized data collected by OpenPaths). I just have no anecdotal or empirical evidence of users putting this data to good use. If anything, folks I've seen using Fitbit/FuelBand could use a bit more exercise and a better diet. People tracking their sleep activity tend to stay late and have poor sleeping habits (for example). Do you really need a fancy dissection of your every move and interaction to even know what you should be doing with yourself? [1]: https://openpaths.cc https://openpaths.cc

rbinv 11y ago
Agreed. This is the problem with pretty much all "health trackers": how actionable are the data and visualization? Yes, you need to measure stuff to improve it, but still, a step counter is like a website hit counter and has little actionable value in and of itself.
- samstave 11y ago
  What if you made a white labeled incentive health tracking app that can be used by schools to set contests for activities each week. You can have prizes or incentives set for people individually and as groups. "Who ran the farthest?" "Who lost the most weight over the school year" "Who is eating the best" And allow competition groups in each between friends as well, e.g. A competition for all students to run or bike, but I can do an individual group challenge with just my friends too... It might be a good way to get value and start setting good habits at younger ages.
  - 2arrs2ells 11y ago
    If anyone wants to do this, let me know (contact info in profile). My startup (Clever, YC S12) has APIs that'd make the school part incredibly easy.

Cshelton 11y ago

I was just thinking about the UI on a lot of shows/movies and how rarely we see any UI like it in the real world. Even those 'FBI databases mainframes...' that a character hacked into do not look anything like that in real life. This is pretty cool and fits in well in 'Hollywood'. Now I want to find a project that I can actually use a similar UI on haha.

roymurdock 11y ago
When v1 got posted (about a year ago?) one of Anand's (the creator) roommates chimed in on HN, saying that they had watched Iron Man together and that Anand had been taking notes on the UI/UX the whole time which he incorporated into his design. I imagine you'd be able to find more movie inspiration in the design if you look closely.
- Cshelton 11y ago
  Oh I def see that inspiration. I've been watching "Arrow" recently and they have a lot of interesting UI on that show too.
gkoberger 11y ago
Here's some more info on the creation: https://blog.gyrosco.pe/the-making-of-april-zero-877612ca3d24#ed93 https://blog.gyrosco.pe/the-making-of-april-zero-877612ca3d2...
arscan 11y ago
I love the 'Hollywood' look as well, and a recent hobby of mine has been to recreate some of my favorite ones for the web. It has been a great learning experience. Tron Legacy: http://www.robscanlon.com/encom-boardroom/ http://www.robscanlon.com/encom-boardroom/ Guardians of the Galaxy: http://www.robscanlon.com/about/ http://www.robscanlon.com/about/ Wargames: http://www.robscanlon.com/github-wargames/ http://www.robscanlon.com/github-wargames/ It's interesting how certain techniques seem to come up over and over again... like they almost always use complex intro/exit animations for every element and additive blending over dark backdrops.

robbles 11y ago

> 1.4 hours on Gyroscopedev:5000 Looks like someone's been working on the dev version :)

artursapek 11y ago

This is the most San Francisco thing I've ever seen

zbraniecki 11y ago
As a Pole living in San Francisco I don't even know if I should be proud or ashamed, but you're totally right :)
- Jonovono 11y ago
  Why ashamed?
trymas 11y ago
This will be my new go to sentence to describe hip/trendy things. Talking about site itself, design looks stunning and impressive - lots of work in it. But as tool itself, I do not see much value in it. I have scales at home to measure my weight, and sports watch to track exercises. Also whole tracking is way too detail. I can see my health trends in no less than a week, but usually in a time scale of months. Also this tracking sucks my time, attention, etc., and it probably won't tell anything if I have some scary illness growing inside me until I can tell it myself, without any tracking. Finally, most of devices used have accuracy problems, if you want to track your heart rate in detail you must use a chest band, not a wrist one. All in all it's just a very very cool toy. It needs too much attention from user. Too many devices to manage/charge/connect/wear, etc.

namelezz 11y ago

The UI is nice but it runs very slow on my FF.

nkozyra 11y ago

I love the UX but I still find the self-quantification data shallow. Time as a measurement of efficiency is inherently flawed, for example. And there's (as best I can tell) no goal setting nor recommendations for meeting goals based on prior successes and failures. That's still the big gap in self-quantification. In the mean time we're just making prettier charts.

artifaxx 11y ago
I have been thinking about this too. I agree that time is only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to measuring efficiency. Do you think measuring how many to do list items someone completes would be a better metric?
- nkozyra 11y ago
  Of course, but whenever you skew from passive acquisition of data to a system that requires active participation you increase the likelihood of inaccurate or incomplete data.

jm4 11y ago

Why in the world would I want to connect this to Facebook? You really need an option to sign up with email. Other than that... Very cool looking design. Looks like it would be interesting to try. I like the integration with other apps and sensors. Lots of potential.

Fastidious 11y ago

Facebook account required.

avitzurel 11y ago

Looks awesome. I am not sure this is your target market, but using TrainingPeaks as an integration will solve a lot of problems for athletes and coaches. TrainingPeaks is the number one tool today for serious athletes, especially ones that have coaches and teams.

ThomPete 11y ago

This looks good, but the real value would be in an AI monitoring you in the background, rather than yourself having to look at your stats. In other words it suffer a little bit from the hacking in movies syndrome. The real interesting application is the continues monitoring by the system not by me. That kind of defeats the purpose.

googletron 11y ago

Here is some of the data collected during my work out this morning in the new mobile app coming out soon. https://instagram.com/p/_H22dosEM9/ https://instagram.com/p/_H22dosEM9/ I have been using this product as soon as I could join, then joined the company few months after. There is definite improvement in my health and focus. As a weightlifter, it's especially useful and awesome to see after a work out. Or whatever you do to keep you active. And if you haven't started make a goal of taking a walk or light jog! That's streaks keep your motivated to improve! Check out other stuff here at https://gyrosco.pe/myusuf3 https://gyrosco.pe/myusuf3 Give it a shot and use the data to improve, set short term goals and strive towards them, the differences you will see are incredible.

DiabloD3 11y ago

My only problem with Gyroscope is there is still no alternative logins. I don't use Facebook, and I don't want to make a login for them just to use it.

Glyptodon 11y ago

Looks cool and useful, but I'd never want a 3rd party to have that dataset. Could care less about privacy policies. (They're meaningless.) On a different level, it's very much not clear from the site itself what hardware you need to have to get all the various metrics it's displaying.

ilurk 11y ago

Do you still have the previous versions of the site? I did like the places/travel pages.

wppick 11y ago

I love the direction that this project is going in. I think a future where you can monitor your body in real time and use that data to make decision about what to eat, treat medical conditions in their very stages, maximize energy, etc. I think body chemistry is still a huge unknown area that I would love to see explored. Can you monitor the body and sense DNA damage and possibly be able to attribute it to something that you can change. Can you measure the levels of various chemicals in your body to find an imbalance? Fuck 140 characters, this is the direction the minds of our brightest people should be going in

sktrdie 11y ago

What tech did you use for developing the interface? Any framework, library, architecture (thinking React/Flux/Angular) or was it done by scratch?

jameslk 11y ago
Based on my quick poking around, there doesn't seem to be any special framework. It just looks like jQuery and manual DOM manipulation for the most part, with the code organized around a typical OO design.

vikram360 11y ago

I vaguely remember seeing the homepage of a quantified self nerd that showed all his live stats - ecg, hydration, activity and stuff like that. I can't seem to find it though. It was absolutely beautiful. Then again, like the other arguments made here, I don't know what one can do

wdmeldon 11y ago
I'm pretty sure it was this. April Zero has hit the front page of HN before.

pookieinc 11y ago

Really beautiful work, I'd love to see a technical write-up on how this was achieved and would definitely follow something like that. I'm interested in joining this, however I don't have such a wrist device. Which tracker would be best for receiving the most accurate data? Is there a recommended tracker (Fitbit vs. Jawbone vs. etc.) that provides more data, so this app can track more things for the user?

aprilzero 11y ago
iPhones for the past few years have actually been tracking steps and other data in the background & storing it in Healthkit. You won't be able to get heart rate, but a lot of our views can be powered with just software. Our new healthkit app (gyrosco.pe/app, currently in beta) loads steps from the iPhone, and we also integrate with other apps like Moves which also run on the phone. The idea is you can get started within just a few minutes and not need to buy anything. We can also backfill the last year of data so you don't start with an empty site. Then you can start to add hardware to get more data you care about, like a wifi scale or heart rate monitor. There are many other apps that also write to healthkit, like sleep tracking apps Sleep++ / Sleep Cycle, which will then show up.

pookieinc 11y ago

Rodeoclash 11y ago

Make it work in realtime, add a camera feed and you would have realised the Colonial Marines mission screens from the APC in aliens. http://www.robf.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Aliens-A2S7-screens.png http://www.robf.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Aliens-A2S...

Raphael 11y ago

Oh, another mystery-meat menu.

KenanSulayman 11y ago

I like it and I upgraded. Thanks!

desireco42 11y ago

It looks cool, but I still don't see how this site will give me more info then in my example my Basis website. It claims it improves productivity but I fail to see how it would do that, aside me analysing graphs, that tends to waste time... Anyhow, if anyone has good info that would help me understand this, I would appreciate it. It is really impressive site.

anant90 11y ago

"What you measure is what you get." Just wanted to say thanks for building this out. It'll be great to be able to see custom metrics in the dashboard which the user can enter themselves, and yes, the app can remind the user to enter them. This came to my mind since I can imagine people wanting to track body fat% or other specific body measurements which can't just be picked up by a tracking device, nor can be found in Apple's Health App.

bl4ckdu5t 11y ago

Splendid interface. I'll never stop saying I'm scared of the future but we have to embrace it. I am paranoid to use this as there isn't a TOS or maybe it's just me that couldn't find any but what if early sign-ups will just be experiments for them to work on? what if there's some way this affects the users later?

0x54MUR41 11y ago

DISCLAIMER: I don't mean to promote an application This application reminds me about a mobile application that is similar with this. An application that called "Exist" [1]. Exist tracks everything in one place. It tracks your fitness data and other services connected with yours. [1]: https://exist.io/ https://exist.io/

_arc 11y ago

What's with the UI here? Sure, it looks nice, but do you need all that fanciness for just a health dashboard?