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I have only recently begun running (18 months) and in that time I have completed multiple halfs, with my first full in January (actually a 2 day: half followed

I have only recently begun running (18 months) and in that time I have completed multiple halfs, with my first full in January (actually a 2 day: half followed by a full). My goal is to beging doing the 5 day desert ultras. To date it have been an interest learning experience/experiment. I used to eat Paleo, without any exercise I was fairly ripped. I dropped Paleo a year ago to incorporate carbs, over the year I have gained 15-20 lbs due to change in diet, while my overall intake has remained about the same. I don't think this is unusual for new distance runner who don't change diets as generally runners will need to increase intake to the point it exceeds what people burn. Training in tropical weather (Miami) I have run into the issue of heat stroke a few times. This is completely distinct from dehydration and pushes me to train at night. I developed compartment syndrome and subsequently (thru trial and error) discovered a topical treatment that does not cure but prevents the symptoms. Whereas the only solution that appears anywhere online for this phenomenon is surgery. I would love the opportunity to formally test my topical treatment in an official clinical lab setting. Diatance running no doubt has odd effects on the body (short term and longe term) but from the just based anecdotally on the hundreds of 60-70 years olds I see in these races who have been running for decades I think it's a good bet overall distance running has a net positive impact on quality of life.

austinjp 11y ago
Hi there. Very interested in your topical treatment for compartment syndrome. Frankly, I am very sceptical that (a) it works or (b) you had compartment syndrome. Can you provide further details?
- will_brown 11y ago
  I would simply say this, and if you have CS you should agree, CS is unmistakable. That said there are 2 types I am aware of, CS as a result of accidents/trauma and athletically induced, mine being the later. (b) Within 30 seconds to 2 minutes of running the pressure/pain begins. Personally I get swelling/bulging in 2 of the compartments to the extent it is clearly visible to the naked eye (this never happened before the CS or when using my topical treatment). In the few instances I "power through" the pain, which I have found mostly impossible, it will lead first to numbness in my feet (though the pain never subsides in the compartments and only increases) and then I develop drop foot during the run. Within ~1 minute of ceasing the run the pain subsides. (a): I have experimented to the point that I have isolated the CS in 2 out of 4 compartments in each leg. If I don't use the treatment I always have the pain/swelling/pressure. Additionally, through experiments I know I can target one of the compartments in each leg and still have the pain/pressure/swelling in the untreated compartments. Another note, if I apply to topical treatment and don't run within ~1 hour I will develop the pain/swelling/pressure to a lesser degree, but when I go running immediately I have had runs as long as 3 hours and do not experience any symptoms. My discovery was not random luck, as I experimented with rollers, icing, heating, stretching, shoes, running surface, other topicals, etc... Having found the treatment I don't employ any other variables such as stretching, icing, or heating. It really isn't so crazy to conclude there are topical treatments the body will absorb that could change the fascia viscosity to accommodate muscle expansion. As I said, I would love the opportunity to go through clinical testing to confirm my treatment works. I am not sure how big the CS market is, but I know that after only 18 months of running I was unwilling to give it up, and surgery is not practical.
  - koide 11y ago
    Can you share what the treatment is?
  - austinjp 11y ago
    Unfortunately this all sounds highly implausible. If you have found something that you feel works for you, good luck with it. The chances that it works by the methods you suggest are hugely unlikely. Compartment syndrome can be extremely serious. Extremely. If you notice swelling with numbness or weakness again please go immediately to a hospital. Good luck! :)

austinjp 11y ago

Hi there. Very interested in your topical treatment for compartment syndrome. Frankly, I am very sceptical that (a) it works or (b) you had compartment syndrome. Can you provide further details?

will_brown 11y ago
I would simply say this, and if you have CS you should agree, CS is unmistakable. That said there are 2 types I am aware of, CS as a result of accidents/trauma and athletically induced, mine being the later. (b) Within 30 seconds to 2 minutes of running the pressure/pain begins. Personally I get swelling/bulging in 2 of the compartments to the extent it is clearly visible to the naked eye (this never happened before the CS or when using my topical treatment). In the few instances I "power through" the pain, which I have found mostly impossible, it will lead first to numbness in my feet (though the pain never subsides in the compartments and only increases) and then I develop drop foot during the run. Within ~1 minute of ceasing the run the pain subsides. (a): I have experimented to the point that I have isolated the CS in 2 out of 4 compartments in each leg. If I don't use the treatment I always have the pain/swelling/pressure. Additionally, through experiments I know I can target one of the compartments in each leg and still have the pain/pressure/swelling in the untreated compartments. Another note, if I apply to topical treatment and don't run within ~1 hour I will develop the pain/swelling/pressure to a lesser degree, but when I go running immediately I have had runs as long as 3 hours and do not experience any symptoms. My discovery was not random luck, as I experimented with rollers, icing, heating, stretching, shoes, running surface, other topicals, etc... Having found the treatment I don't employ any other variables such as stretching, icing, or heating. It really isn't so crazy to conclude there are topical treatments the body will absorb that could change the fascia viscosity to accommodate muscle expansion. As I said, I would love the opportunity to go through clinical testing to confirm my treatment works. I am not sure how big the CS market is, but I know that after only 18 months of running I was unwilling to give it up, and surgery is not practical.
- koide 11y ago
  Can you share what the treatment is?
- austinjp 11y ago
  Unfortunately this all sounds highly implausible. If you have found something that you feel works for you, good luck with it. The chances that it works by the methods you suggest are hugely unlikely. Compartment syndrome can be extremely serious. Extremely. If you notice swelling with numbness or weakness again please go immediately to a hospital. Good luck! :)