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new TLD: .BOT
- toyg 11y agoIt would be awesome if Amazon could force registrants to contractually agree to follow Asimov's 3 Laws of Robotics.
- delinka 11y agoThey certainly could ... I agree they should.
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- cryptoz 11y agoFor certain definitions of 'awesome'; we'd be inviting murder and deception and all manner of crime via robot. I think the lesson from Asimov is that we can't bank on a simple set of laws to protect us from killer robots. The zeroth law is most important, as well. If we try this route we'd have to be sure to implement that law first. > A robot may not harm humanity; or through inaction allow humanity to come to harm.
- malka 11y agothe problem being definining what "harming humanity" means.
- ultramancool 11y agoDo botnets qualify as "robots" and does "harming humanity" include DDoS attacks?
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- libria 11y agoIndeed, in the novels the "inventor" of the 0th law is fatally conflicted upon acting on it.
- dragonwriter 11y agoThe robot killing itself is both a direct action, and results in future inaction, through which humanity may come to harm which the robot could have prevented, had it not killed itself. So that's not a magic-bullet solution.
- MichaelGG 11y agoIf it kills itself, it might cause depression in the inventors. So that's definitely not a solution, let alone the only possible one. A closer solution is to properly simulate humanity and determine which actions work. (There's the ethical question about how good a sim before you've caused consciousness. But I don't think we know enough about consciousness to fully conclude anything there.)
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- bauc 11y agoThat would be good in theory but might not be so good, interesting thoughts on the subject from Computerphile - Why Asimov's Laws of Robotics Don't Work - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PKx3kS7f4A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PKx3kS7f4A
- bduerst 11y agoWasn't that the entire, combined plot for the book I Robot? That the three rules don't always work?
- 542458 11y agoIt's the combined plot for pretty much every Asimov book they appear in. That's discussed in the linked video, as well as the grand picture of why they don't really make sense as "laws" since they're basically impossible to define without first defining all of ethics.
- jsingleton 11y agoThat's fiction, Foster. Some guy made it up! A cruise missile is a robot.
- jsingleton 11y agoObligatory comic https://xkcd.com/1613 https://xkcd.com/1613
- ocdtrekkie 11y agoTime from registration opening to ro.bot being taken: Mere milliseconds.
- Fastidious 11y agoI doubt it will be available. Normally two letters domains are reserved.
- samstave 11y agoWho do they reserve them for? Deep pockets?
- kuschku 11y agoExactly. For example, two-letter .de domains are far more expensive than normal ones – which is how DB and VW got theirs.
- germanier 11y agodb.de (as well as ix.de, hq.de, and bb.de) was registered before the registration of two-letter was forbidden. After a lawsuit they had to give vw.de to Volkswagen which then led to permitting all short domains. Those were given out on a first-come, first-serve basis (i.e. to those with the best resources).
- samstave 11y agoFor $ in pockets DO graft.fu
- JosephRedfern 11y agoI thought the same, but [a-z]{2}.bot are all reserved: http://whois.nic.bot/whoismtld/html/default/reservednames.html http://whois.nic.bot/whoismtld/html/default/reservednames.ht...
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- Zikes 11y agoSurprisingly few "clever" possibilities: http://rhymezone.com/r/rhyme.cgi?Word=*bot&typeofrhyme=perfect&org1=syl&org2=sl&org3=y http://rhymezone.com/r/rhyme.cgi?Word=*bot&typeofrhyme=perfe...
- AstroJetson 11y agoThanks for the list, One of the samples is "sheep nasal bot", I'm going to go for that one! I also got a laugh, wonder how many readers know who Sebastian Cabot is?
- praseodym 11y agoA TLD for all your infected Windows machines \o/
- ultramancool 11y agoSo, who will be the first to offer bulletproof hosting on .bot domains?
- gnoway 11y agoThis is really going to help a lot of sites protect themselves - right now we just have the evil bit, but being able to block addresses with a ptr in .bot should eliminate drive-by defacement altogether.
- jessaustin 11y agoYou had me going, there.
- linuxguy2 11y agoThe evil bit is a real thing. https://blog.benjojo.co.uk/post/evil-bit-RFC3514-real-world-usage https://blog.benjojo.co.uk/post/evil-bit-RFC3514-real-world-...
- mintplant 11y agoFor definitions of "real" that include April Fools jokes.
- tuxracer 11y agoActually there are some systems in the wild that block evil bit traffic https://blog.benjojo.co.uk/post/evil-bit-RFC3514-real-world-usage https://blog.benjojo.co.uk/post/evil-bit-RFC3514-real-world-...
- personjerry 11y agoThe bit exists in a packet. Its usage does not exist. At least, not commonly used for its "intended purpose".
- nickpsecurity 11y agoThat's awesome haha
- Eric_WVGG 11y agoI call dibs on sex.bot
- jessaustin 11y agoChorus of whinging about DNSSec policies in following document in 3, 2, 1... http://nic.bot/pdf/BOT-DPSStatement.pdf http://nic.bot/pdf/BOT-DPSStatement.pdf
- feld 11y agoyeah that seems odd...
- zokier 11y agoIntrestingly enoungh nic.bot itself is registered not to Amazon proper but to Neustar Inc.
- downtide 11y agoHow do I get one? What's the price on the tin?
- profinger 11y agoThis!
- downtide 11y agoI figure that as this is an Amazon product it will most likely be available through their domain registration via Route 53. After wading through the control panel, I finally found the domain registration section. But there is no .bot option as yet. Judging by the pricing of other boutique TLDs, listed there, it will probably be a rip off. (Yup, all pure conjecture on my part.)
- profinger 11y agoI got way downvoted for my previous comment. Interesting! lol That said, I didn't even realize Amazon had a domain registration section. I'm with you that it'll be a total rip off. I'm hoping it's not that absurd because it'd be a really fun one to own!
- pavel_lishin 11y ago> I got way downvoted for my previous comment. Interesting! You were downvoted because it added nothing to the discussion.
- profinger 11y agoDo you have to sign up for Route 53 to get that section? It appears that I have to pay just to be a member. Or maybe I'm just finding the wrong thing.
- downtide 11y agoI think you need an AWS account. Then login, go to dashboard->route 53. But there is no option for the .bot tld yet. Perhaps keep an eye on this list: http://docs.aws.amazon.com/Route53/latest/DeveloperGuide/registrar-tld-list.html#registrar-tld-list-generic http://docs.aws.amazon.com/Route53/latest/DeveloperGuide/reg... Looking through that Gandi seem to be a strong associate, they are pre-reserving there.
- bgaid 11y agoGitHub better hurry up and get hu.bot
- r3bl 11y agoI wonder what's the price of ro.bot going to be. EDIT: I should have read the rest of the comments before posting this.
- Grue3 11y agoLooking forward to medi.bot from Look Around You.
- impostervt 11y agoFrom wordsapi: robot 4.14 abbot 3.1 bot 3 talbot 2.89 cabot 2.84 turbot 2.27 sabot 2.08
- mthoms 11y agoWhat do the numbers indicate? Frequency of use?
- impostervt 11y agoYes, it's a 1 to 8 scale, where 8 is the most frequent.
- iso8859-1 11y agohow do you do a wildcard search on Words API?
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- hunvreus 11y agoSeems Amazon got that TLD a while back: http://techcrunch.com/2012/06/13/how-tech-giants-are-playing-the-icann-domain-game/ http://techcrunch.com/2012/06/13/how-tech-giants-are-playing... Why the long wait?
- passwordis 11y agodig <anything>.bot resolves to 127.0.53.53 meaning https://www.icann.org/namecollision https://www.icann.org/namecollision
- finnn 11y ago>All domains in the .BOT registry will remain the property of Amazon. according to http://icannwiki.com/.bot http://icannwiki.com/.bot
- serge2k 11y agoI still find private companies taking generic TLDs like this (that's probably a bad term, I'm trying to say I have a problem with .bot but not say, .aws) a pretty awful idea. What is the point? Why should Amazon get to buy a chunk of the DNS system like this?
- icebraining 11y agoWhy not? It's just one extra level, why should it be sacred?
- serge2k 11y agohttp://sealedabstract.com/rants/google-our-patron-saint-of-the-closed-web/ http://sealedabstract.com/rants/google-our-patron-saint-of-t... that sums it up fairly well.
- icebraining 11y agoThat doesn't actually answer my question, the assumption is still there, unexplained. So we don't get a generic .dev TLD for content targeted at software developers; so what? DNS has existed for thirty years without one, yet we've managed to show content for developers somehow, and we'll continue to do so. The new gTLD program has changed nothing of relevance for us. Does it really matter if Google paid a few hundred grand to get shorter domains? The whole discussion just reminds me of children in the playground arguing over who gets to play with the red ball.
- grimmdude 11y agotldr
- TazeTSchnitzel 11y agoI, for one, welcome our new larvæ/homosexual/jumping/boat/wineskin/bagpipe/blunt/impolite/bone/offering/bidding/occuring/stick/container/tail/phallic/fine/help/repair/compensation/improvement/toad/strike overlords. (Okay, 'bot' will probably be used exclusively to mean robot, but it has many other meanings: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bot https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bot)