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I agree. Remastered TNG, in 1080p, looks like a theater-based teleplay.

knodi123 11y ago
at least it's not HFR. I was never able to achieve immersion in the hobbit movies, because I felt like I was watching people on a stage.
- danjc 11y ago
  I had precisely that problem and this is the first time I've heard someone else mention it.
  - superuser2 11y ago
    YES! I'm insanely sensitive to this too. I have to interrupt group TV watching to play around with the TV's menus and turn off the "automatically simulate 60fps" setting that so many Smart TVs have on by default these days. My mother can't tell the difference at all. I'm pretty sure this is just something that only a subset of the population notices enough to care about.
    - Bognar 11y ago
      The simulated 60 FPS (or higher) are significantly worse than just 60 FPS source material. TVs attempt to interpolate between the frames automatically and it just screws everything up.
      - rossy 11y ago
        Yes! I didn't mind the HFR Hobbit movies at all, but I can't stand the interpolated HFR that comes out of smart TVs. Once you start to notice the artifacts (often distortion or weird juddering in the background,) it becomes much less enjoyable to watch than the standard uninterpolated 24fps content. I look forward to a future of real HFR content, not fake interpolated crap. And of course, smart TV HFR butchers hand-drawn animation.
        aninhumer 11y ago
        Personally, I find the higher framerates valuable enough that I'm willing to put up with the artifacts. They're easy to see if you're looking for them, but I think most of them are pretty ignorable, although there are some pathological cases (any time the scene pans across regular vertical bars e.g. blinds).
- jjaredsimpson 11y ago
  I really enjoyed HFR it only distracted me for the first few minutes. The actions scenes were way clearer. I saw the first 2 hobbits on TV and the 3rd in theaters. And I definitely preferred HFR.
  - Keyframe 11y ago
    I do production and post production for a living. I didn't like HFR in Hobbit. The lighting was off, so was motion blur - cheapening the effect of it. Maybe with further tweaking it will look 'filmic' eventually. I do like it in 3D though. Also, high frame rate is AWESOME for (almost) anything live TV, and I think that's a real future of it. For example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVXQlkpaC5k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVXQlkpaC5k
- aninhumer 11y ago
  I'm very much inclined to think this is just what people get used to. You're used to watching lower framerate, so your brain is yelling "something is different" all the time you're watching. I got used to higher framerates (mostly via interpolation), and now 24fps stuff feels really jerky to me, almost like stop motion.

at least it's not HFR. I was never able to achieve immersion in the hobbit movies, because I felt like I was watching people on a stage.

danjc 11y ago
I had precisely that problem and this is the first time I've heard someone else mention it.
- superuser2 11y ago
  YES! I'm insanely sensitive to this too. I have to interrupt group TV watching to play around with the TV's menus and turn off the "automatically simulate 60fps" setting that so many Smart TVs have on by default these days. My mother can't tell the difference at all. I'm pretty sure this is just something that only a subset of the population notices enough to care about.
  - Bognar 11y ago
    The simulated 60 FPS (or higher) are significantly worse than just 60 FPS source material. TVs attempt to interpolate between the frames automatically and it just screws everything up.
    - rossy 11y ago
      Yes! I didn't mind the HFR Hobbit movies at all, but I can't stand the interpolated HFR that comes out of smart TVs. Once you start to notice the artifacts (often distortion or weird juddering in the background,) it becomes much less enjoyable to watch than the standard uninterpolated 24fps content. I look forward to a future of real HFR content, not fake interpolated crap. And of course, smart TV HFR butchers hand-drawn animation.
      - aninhumer 11y ago
        Personally, I find the higher framerates valuable enough that I'm willing to put up with the artifacts. They're easy to see if you're looking for them, but I think most of them are pretty ignorable, although there are some pathological cases (any time the scene pans across regular vertical bars e.g. blinds).
jjaredsimpson 11y ago
I really enjoyed HFR it only distracted me for the first few minutes. The actions scenes were way clearer. I saw the first 2 hobbits on TV and the 3rd in theaters. And I definitely preferred HFR.
- Keyframe 11y ago
  I do production and post production for a living. I didn't like HFR in Hobbit. The lighting was off, so was motion blur - cheapening the effect of it. Maybe with further tweaking it will look 'filmic' eventually. I do like it in 3D though. Also, high frame rate is AWESOME for (almost) anything live TV, and I think that's a real future of it. For example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVXQlkpaC5k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVXQlkpaC5k
aninhumer 11y ago
I'm very much inclined to think this is just what people get used to. You're used to watching lower framerate, so your brain is yelling "something is different" all the time you're watching. I got used to higher framerates (mostly via interpolation), and now 24fps stuff feels really jerky to me, almost like stop motion.