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I've been wanting to get rid of VS ever since I started coding in C#, but I haven't yet figured out a nice way to build, test, and run my applications in Emacs.

I've been wanting to get rid of VS ever since I started coding in C#, but I haven't yet figured out a nice way to build, test, and run my applications in Emacs. How did you handle that sort of stuff in vim?

dasboth 11y ago
Out of interest, what in your opinion was so bad about VS that you wanted to get rid of it?
- wdmeldon 11y ago
  For me, it's bloat. VS is slow as molasses and has a thousand features I don't need nor want. I also miss the multiselect feature from Sublime.
  - jongalloway2 11y ago
    If you want multiselect in Visual Studio, it's available via several extensions: https://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/2beb9705-b568-45d1-8550-751e181e3aef https://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/2beb9705-b568... http://www.hanselman.com/blog/SimultaneousEditingForVisualStudioWithTheFreeMultiEditExtension.aspx http://www.hanselman.com/blog/SimultaneousEditingForVisualSt... https://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/f301cf82-e80b-4b92-9e5c-ef7985ae6702?SRC=Home https://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/f301cf82-e80b...
  - alkonaut 11y ago
    I think I'd rather go for VS.code then, than try to bend Emacs or Sublime into doing C#.
    - bsuh 11y ago
      For what it's worth, VS.code uses omnisharp-roslyn for its C# integration. So you can get a very similar experience from editors which have omnisharp-roslyn support.
      - moonchrome 11y ago
        But VS code has project support and debugging integration AFAIK. That's the kind of things that really set IDE vs editor in terms of usability.
  - dasboth 11y ago
    Interesting, apart from longish compile times on big projects I've never had speed issues. Installing Resharper, useful as it is, made it crawl so I abandonded it, but I feel productive in VS on its own.
- Munksgaard 11y ago
  First of all I should probably say that I'm quite new in the .Net world, and that many of my issues with VS could probably be alleviated. I just don't know how. Mostly I think it's just about preference. I like my editor lean [insert joke about emacs being bloated here], visually non-distracting and customizable. I also try to avoid using my mouse. Emacs is all of these things for me, VS is not.
  - TheEzEzz 11y ago
    VS can definitely be configured to be lean. My setup is dark, almost no chrome, and is fully keyboard driven. It can take a bit of work though. VS isn't my main editor, but I enjoy it when I use it, after a few years of wrestling with settings!
    - dasboth 11y ago
      I agree, recent versions are preety customisable. I hardly use the mouse and I didn't have to do much to make VS comfortable to use.
JupiterMoon 11y ago
Would makefiles not cut it for your needs?
- Munksgaard 11y ago
  Probably, I just don't know enough about MSBuild to write any yet.

dasboth 11y ago

Out of interest, what in your opinion was so bad about VS that you wanted to get rid of it?

wdmeldon 11y ago
For me, it's bloat. VS is slow as molasses and has a thousand features I don't need nor want. I also miss the multiselect feature from Sublime.
- jongalloway2 11y ago
  If you want multiselect in Visual Studio, it's available via several extensions: https://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/2beb9705-b568-45d1-8550-751e181e3aef https://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/2beb9705-b568... http://www.hanselman.com/blog/SimultaneousEditingForVisualStudioWithTheFreeMultiEditExtension.aspx http://www.hanselman.com/blog/SimultaneousEditingForVisualSt... https://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/f301cf82-e80b-4b92-9e5c-ef7985ae6702?SRC=Home https://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/f301cf82-e80b...
- alkonaut 11y ago
  I think I'd rather go for VS.code then, than try to bend Emacs or Sublime into doing C#.
  - bsuh 11y ago
    For what it's worth, VS.code uses omnisharp-roslyn for its C# integration. So you can get a very similar experience from editors which have omnisharp-roslyn support.
    - moonchrome 11y ago
      But VS code has project support and debugging integration AFAIK. That's the kind of things that really set IDE vs editor in terms of usability.
- dasboth 11y ago
  Interesting, apart from longish compile times on big projects I've never had speed issues. Installing Resharper, useful as it is, made it crawl so I abandonded it, but I feel productive in VS on its own.
Munksgaard 11y ago
First of all I should probably say that I'm quite new in the .Net world, and that many of my issues with VS could probably be alleviated. I just don't know how. Mostly I think it's just about preference. I like my editor lean [insert joke about emacs being bloated here], visually non-distracting and customizable. I also try to avoid using my mouse. Emacs is all of these things for me, VS is not.
- TheEzEzz 11y ago
  VS can definitely be configured to be lean. My setup is dark, almost no chrome, and is fully keyboard driven. It can take a bit of work though. VS isn't my main editor, but I enjoy it when I use it, after a few years of wrestling with settings!
  - dasboth 11y ago
    I agree, recent versions are preety customisable. I hardly use the mouse and I didn't have to do much to make VS comfortable to use.

JupiterMoon 11y ago

Would makefiles not cut it for your needs?

Munksgaard 11y ago
Probably, I just don't know enough about MSBuild to write any yet.