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The first item on the list is "I Will Teach You To Be Rich". That, to me, is a sign that I won't find serious opportunities on there.

mattmanser 11y ago
To be fair, it's an actual company that's really called I will teach you to be rich. http://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/ http://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/ Although it sounds high pressure to work overtime, it actually sounds like a pretty interesting job. Apart from the PHP.
- kuschku 11y ago
  This sounds very illegal. Working more than 8h overall a day, no matter in how many jobs, is highly illegal. I wonder how they suggest to handle that.
  - toyg 11y ago
    Illegal where? Labour regulations are very country-specific. The EU directive covering this is... flexible.
    - V-2 11y ago
      The directive says that working hours should not exceed 48 per week (so this by itself allows working more than 8h a day), plus it's ON AVERAGE, so if you do 60 hours one week and 36 another, it should be okay
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  - chrisseaton 11y ago
    > Working more than 8h overall a day, no matter in how many jobs, is highly illegal. EU working time directive? You can just opt out of that, and it doesn't apply anyway to lots of jobs like doctors, military etc, so it certainly isn't simply 'highly illegal'.
    - DasIch 11y ago
      In any country with reasonable regulation it's going to be especially illegal, if you're a doctor and certainly not something you can opt out of.
      - chrisseaton 11y ago
        In terms of doctor's working hours 'only 6 of the 27 European member states meet the prescribed standard' (of maximum 8 hours a day) [1]. So either they're opting out of it, the law doesn't apply to them, or they're working illegally. That or you're going to say that most of the countries in the EU don't have 'reasonable regulation'. [1] http://www.biomedcentral.com/1472-6920/14/S1/S8 http://www.biomedcentral.com/1472-6920/14/S1/S8
    - kuschku 11y ago
      At least in Germany, there is no legal opt-out. Only in emergencies, and even then only 10h a day.
      - chrisseaton 11y ago
        > Only in emergencies, and even then only 10h a day. Are you saying that if there's some major medical incident, with medical facilities overwhelmed, hundreds of people needing help, German doctors would just say 'sorry, ten hours, I'm off home to watch TV'. I'm sure that's not true.
        kuschku 11y ago
        In rare emergencies, the limit is gone, but then the employee needs at least 2 days of free time after that shift.
        realityking 11y ago
        The grandparent is slightly wrong. You are allowed to work 10 hours if your average over the next 6 months or 24 weeks does not exceed 8 hours a day. (Where "day" includes Saturdays but excludes Sundays and holidays) There are a number of exceptions for extraordinary situations, that could not have been anticipated by the employer, to allow exceeding the 10 hours. However the rule about the average in the next 6 months or 24 weeks still applies.
  - matthewmacleod 11y ago
    Not, it's just not. You're misinformed. Even if the Working Time Directive was involved (which it's not, if you want to opt out), it limits work to 9.6 hours/day.
dabrorius 11y ago
I was reluctant to add that posting because of the project name. However if you read the job posting it seems much more serious than the name implies. It was an edge case but I decided to add it in the end.
- SyneRyder 11y ago
  If it becomes an issue, you could change the project name to Ramit Sethi (the guy behind IWTYTBR). He's pretty well known and has personal brand recognition. I don't really recognise any of the other companies on the list, maybe Semaphore, but I was really surprised to see "Whoa, Ramit's hiring."
- tallanvor 11y ago
  I can see it being a difficult decision for you to make there, given that apparently that is a real business name. But that combined with the title "Growth Engineer" just really makes it look like a pyramid scheme or other scam.
DeusExMachina 11y ago
That is just because you have no idea what IWTYTBR is. Ramit has high end courses on finding a job, negotiating your salary, freelancing, online business and more. All these sell for a very high price and have a high success rate among the students, that get extraordinary results. I spent myself thousands of dollars in their trainings and they were the best spent money of my life. IWT is a multimillion business, with many employees, and their salaries and benefits are usually higher than the average. And it even allows you to work remotely. Looks like a very serious opportunity to me.
- tallanvor 11y ago
  Maybe it's just me, but when I see that name, especially combined with the title "Growth Engineer", it screams scam. It's good that you're happy with their service, but I just wouldn't be able to take anyone working for that company seriously.
charlesdm 11y ago
That's the name of the business.

mattmanser 11y ago

To be fair, it's an actual company that's really called I will teach you to be rich. http://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/ http://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/ Although it sounds high pressure to work overtime, it actually sounds like a pretty interesting job. Apart from the PHP.

kuschku 11y ago
This sounds very illegal. Working more than 8h overall a day, no matter in how many jobs, is highly illegal. I wonder how they suggest to handle that.
- toyg 11y ago
  Illegal where? Labour regulations are very country-specific. The EU directive covering this is... flexible.
  - V-2 11y ago
    The directive says that working hours should not exceed 48 per week (so this by itself allows working more than 8h a day), plus it's ON AVERAGE, so if you do 60 hours one week and 36 another, it should be okay
- deleted 11y ago
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- chrisseaton 11y ago
  > Working more than 8h overall a day, no matter in how many jobs, is highly illegal. EU working time directive? You can just opt out of that, and it doesn't apply anyway to lots of jobs like doctors, military etc, so it certainly isn't simply 'highly illegal'.
  - DasIch 11y ago
    In any country with reasonable regulation it's going to be especially illegal, if you're a doctor and certainly not something you can opt out of.
    - chrisseaton 11y ago
      In terms of doctor's working hours 'only 6 of the 27 European member states meet the prescribed standard' (of maximum 8 hours a day) [1]. So either they're opting out of it, the law doesn't apply to them, or they're working illegally. That or you're going to say that most of the countries in the EU don't have 'reasonable regulation'. [1] http://www.biomedcentral.com/1472-6920/14/S1/S8 http://www.biomedcentral.com/1472-6920/14/S1/S8
  - kuschku 11y ago
    At least in Germany, there is no legal opt-out. Only in emergencies, and even then only 10h a day.
    - chrisseaton 11y ago
      > Only in emergencies, and even then only 10h a day. Are you saying that if there's some major medical incident, with medical facilities overwhelmed, hundreds of people needing help, German doctors would just say 'sorry, ten hours, I'm off home to watch TV'. I'm sure that's not true.
      - kuschku 11y ago
        In rare emergencies, the limit is gone, but then the employee needs at least 2 days of free time after that shift.
      - realityking 11y ago
        The grandparent is slightly wrong. You are allowed to work 10 hours if your average over the next 6 months or 24 weeks does not exceed 8 hours a day. (Where "day" includes Saturdays but excludes Sundays and holidays) There are a number of exceptions for extraordinary situations, that could not have been anticipated by the employer, to allow exceeding the 10 hours. However the rule about the average in the next 6 months or 24 weeks still applies.
- matthewmacleod 11y ago
  Not, it's just not. You're misinformed. Even if the Working Time Directive was involved (which it's not, if you want to opt out), it limits work to 9.6 hours/day.

dabrorius 11y ago

I was reluctant to add that posting because of the project name. However if you read the job posting it seems much more serious than the name implies. It was an edge case but I decided to add it in the end.

SyneRyder 11y ago
If it becomes an issue, you could change the project name to Ramit Sethi (the guy behind IWTYTBR). He's pretty well known and has personal brand recognition. I don't really recognise any of the other companies on the list, maybe Semaphore, but I was really surprised to see "Whoa, Ramit's hiring."
tallanvor 11y ago
I can see it being a difficult decision for you to make there, given that apparently that is a real business name. But that combined with the title "Growth Engineer" just really makes it look like a pyramid scheme or other scam.

DeusExMachina 11y ago

That is just because you have no idea what IWTYTBR is. Ramit has high end courses on finding a job, negotiating your salary, freelancing, online business and more. All these sell for a very high price and have a high success rate among the students, that get extraordinary results. I spent myself thousands of dollars in their trainings and they were the best spent money of my life. IWT is a multimillion business, with many employees, and their salaries and benefits are usually higher than the average. And it even allows you to work remotely. Looks like a very serious opportunity to me.

tallanvor 11y ago
Maybe it's just me, but when I see that name, especially combined with the title "Growth Engineer", it screams scam. It's good that you're happy with their service, but I just wouldn't be able to take anyone working for that company seriously.

charlesdm 11y ago

That's the name of the business.