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Not that I disagree with your sentiment, but why FreeBSD? Out of all the BSDs, they are the most likely to adopt a systemd-like environment[1]. Why not Slackwar

Not that I disagree with your sentiment, but why FreeBSD? Out of all the BSDs, they are the most likely to adopt a systemd-like environment[1]. Why not Slackware or Gentoo if you want to stay on Linux without systemd, or else DragonflyBSD or OpenBSD? I'm not criticizing btw, just asking out of curiosity. [1] http://www.golem.de/news/systemd-und-launchd-freebsd-gruender-sieht-notwendigkeit-fuer-modernes-init-system-1411-110809.html http://www.golem.de/news/systemd-und-launchd-freebsd-gruende...

badsock 11y ago
Switching between the BSDs is very easy, and FreeBSD has the most resources for beginners. In any case, I don't think Hubbard's going to get much traction with his plans. And the Gentoo devs are big fans of systemd, so while technically you can use it without, given how many tendrils systemd has got into things I think the amount of work it'll be to maintain the USE="-systemd" flag is going to mean it's a second-class citizen. Slackware will keep chugging along, though, as always.
- morganvachon 11y ago
  Maybe I'm just wired differently, but I have found OpenBSD to be the easiest to latch on to by far. It has the simplest installer and sanest defaults (again in my own opinion) of all the BSDs, and it's the most similar to Slackware that I've found as well. Its only downsides for me have been hardware compatibility and speed/responsiveness as a desktop OS. > Slackware will keep chugging along, though, as always. Indeed, they were more or less silent on the whole systemd issue for a while but Eric Hameleers recently mentioned dropping udev in favor of Gentoo's eudev specifically because of what he calls "standards-violating systemd crap"[1] in udev, which means Slackware will be a safe haven for at least the next major version or so. [1] http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/slackware-live-edition/ http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/slackware-live-edition/
  - badsock 11y ago
    I'm definitely not saying anything against OpenBSD. It's an awesome project and definitely has an edge in a bunch of areas. I think it's really down to whether the people driving the project are your kind of people. That's what pushed me away from using Linux after using it 14 years, and what made FreeBSD so great to arrive at. People making similar decisions to what I would make in the same scenario - it makes using the OS like putting on a well-fitting glove (after a few initial bumps as you sort out which Linuxism don't work well on BSD, of course).

badsock 11y ago

Switching between the BSDs is very easy, and FreeBSD has the most resources for beginners. In any case, I don't think Hubbard's going to get much traction with his plans. And the Gentoo devs are big fans of systemd, so while technically you can use it without, given how many tendrils systemd has got into things I think the amount of work it'll be to maintain the USE="-systemd" flag is going to mean it's a second-class citizen. Slackware will keep chugging along, though, as always.

morganvachon 11y ago
Maybe I'm just wired differently, but I have found OpenBSD to be the easiest to latch on to by far. It has the simplest installer and sanest defaults (again in my own opinion) of all the BSDs, and it's the most similar to Slackware that I've found as well. Its only downsides for me have been hardware compatibility and speed/responsiveness as a desktop OS. > Slackware will keep chugging along, though, as always. Indeed, they were more or less silent on the whole systemd issue for a while but Eric Hameleers recently mentioned dropping udev in favor of Gentoo's eudev specifically because of what he calls "standards-violating systemd crap"[1] in udev, which means Slackware will be a safe haven for at least the next major version or so. [1] http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/slackware-live-edition/ http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/slackware-live-edition/
- badsock 11y ago
  I'm definitely not saying anything against OpenBSD. It's an awesome project and definitely has an edge in a bunch of areas. I think it's really down to whether the people driving the project are your kind of people. That's what pushed me away from using Linux after using it 14 years, and what made FreeBSD so great to arrive at. People making similar decisions to what I would make in the same scenario - it makes using the OS like putting on a well-fitting glove (after a few initial bumps as you sort out which Linuxism don't work well on BSD, of course).