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Apologies for veering slightly off-topic and the pedantry. Is 'cyber' actually used by technically competent folk now? It's been cropping up alot with the 'cy

by KupKLIO 11y ago

Apologies for veering slightly off-topic and the pedantry. Is 'cyber' actually used by technically competent folk now? It's been cropping up alot with the 'cyber' crime, 'cyber' attacks happening in 'cyber' space recently, needing improved 'cyber' security skills. Usually the term's reserved for either mass-media outlets, or people trying to scare you.

j_h_s 11y ago
Anecdotally, I only see "cyber" in security-related discussions.
- jrgifford 11y ago
  So the answer to the question is, of course, nuanced and anecdotal. The media has misused it so much, that much of the information security world (With the exception of pentesters from what I've seen) seems to have given up trying to use the proper terminology. They still seem to be trying to recover the term "hacker", though.
mediocrejoker 11y ago
Coincidentally I was reading this earlier today after coming across a comment on a different article questioning whether pros use the term. http://blog.oxforddictionaries.com/2015/03/cyborgs-cyberspace-csi-cyber/ http://blog.oxforddictionaries.com/2015/03/cyborgs-cyberspac... It seems like cyber is generally used for online badness (cybercrime, cyberwar) while the e- prefix is used for online goodness (e-mail, e-sports, e-commerce)
stordoff 11y ago
"Cyberwarfare" etc. are fairly standard words in international law, so if you are working/studying in that field you'll certainly see it being used by the technically competent. My MA Law thesis ended up including it in the title, and I'd consider myself fairly technically competent (I have a BA in Computer Science), though I'll admit it still sounds a little silly to me at times.
lowpro 11y ago
It used to be used only be those not in tech, but considering many major universities now have "cyber-security" degrees, I think it's mainstream now, for better or worse.
jcrawfordor 11y ago
"Cyber" is used heavily in the industry, much to my chagrin. I wage a minor war of replacing "Cybersecurity" with "Information Security" anywhere I can. I once kept a list of every cyber-* I heard at an industry conference with the idea of making Conference Cyberbingo. Notable entries included "cybertactics," "cyberstrategy," "cyberthreat".
- fao_ 11y ago
  > I wage a minor war of replacing "Cybersecurity" with "Information Security" anywhere I can. For some reason, both of these terms make me grate my teeth! I imagine it has something to do with only hearing "cyber" being used by people who are woefully out of date, and "Infomation Security" by people who are actually marketers that can use a computer...
nstj 11y ago
My last couple of gigs were with banks. At both of them the CTO would use simply the term "cyber" as shorthand for any security related discussion.

by KupKLIO 11y ago

j_h_s 11y ago

Anecdotally, I only see "cyber" in security-related discussions.

jrgifford 11y ago
So the answer to the question is, of course, nuanced and anecdotal. The media has misused it so much, that much of the information security world (With the exception of pentesters from what I've seen) seems to have given up trying to use the proper terminology. They still seem to be trying to recover the term "hacker", though.

mediocrejoker 11y ago

Coincidentally I was reading this earlier today after coming across a comment on a different article questioning whether pros use the term. http://blog.oxforddictionaries.com/2015/03/cyborgs-cyberspace-csi-cyber/ http://blog.oxforddictionaries.com/2015/03/cyborgs-cyberspac... It seems like cyber is generally used for online badness (cybercrime, cyberwar) while the e- prefix is used for online goodness (e-mail, e-sports, e-commerce)

stordoff 11y ago

"Cyberwarfare" etc. are fairly standard words in international law, so if you are working/studying in that field you'll certainly see it being used by the technically competent. My MA Law thesis ended up including it in the title, and I'd consider myself fairly technically competent (I have a BA in Computer Science), though I'll admit it still sounds a little silly to me at times.

lowpro 11y ago

It used to be used only be those not in tech, but considering many major universities now have "cyber-security" degrees, I think it's mainstream now, for better or worse.

jcrawfordor 11y ago

"Cyber" is used heavily in the industry, much to my chagrin. I wage a minor war of replacing "Cybersecurity" with "Information Security" anywhere I can. I once kept a list of every cyber-* I heard at an industry conference with the idea of making Conference Cyberbingo. Notable entries included "cybertactics," "cyberstrategy," "cyberthreat".

fao_ 11y ago
> I wage a minor war of replacing "Cybersecurity" with "Information Security" anywhere I can. For some reason, both of these terms make me grate my teeth! I imagine it has something to do with only hearing "cyber" being used by people who are woefully out of date, and "Infomation Security" by people who are actually marketers that can use a computer...

nstj 11y ago

My last couple of gigs were with banks. At both of them the CTO would use simply the term "cyber" as shorthand for any security related discussion.