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I won't use the word 'scared' but I actually think Apple is worried about Google. In my opinion, It is Google that is getting into Apple's territory (Android,

by dannyr 17y ago

I won't use the word 'scared' but I actually think Apple is worried about Google. In my opinion, It is Google that is getting into Apple's territory (Android, Chrome OS) and Apple is trying to stave them off. A lot of Apple's IPhone users depend on Google services and not the other way around. This is why Apple would probably have its own Search and Map services in the near future.

joubert 17y ago
iPhone users don't depend on Google Maps & Search per se; rather they depend on maps and search, which at time of this writing there's at least one other major provider (quality, market penetration notwithstanding). This can be swapped out. What I would not like to see is only 1 search provider, 1 map provider. Reminder: must check whether there is an OpenStreetMap iPhone app.
- catch23 17y ago
  To a certain extend, iPhone users do depend on the Google suite of products. If you're a GMail user, you probably have lots of saved locations on your google maps, items on your google calendar, and contacts & voicemail on google voice. The android integrates all of these "must-have" apps very nicely on a mobile device. Apple hasn't done so great with their mobile.me platform. Had they done better, the iphone would have been a great mobile device for their mail/contacts/maps.
  - joubert 17y ago
    Only if you actually use GMail. I wonder what percentage of iPhone users use GMail on their phones vs. other email services. I don't use GMail. My calendar syncs with my non-G calendar and my Mac. Ditto for contacts. In what respect does Android integrate these features better than the iPhone does? The one thing that sucks on Google Maps is you don't have access to reviews (or at least in no way that I can determine). At least they show subway stops. I think success here is probably determined by number of hardware units sold. PS: Apple doesn't do maps.
    - dannyr 17y ago
      "In what respect does Android integrate these features better than the iPhone does?" Way, way better on Android. This is the main reason why I'm not switching to the IPhone. Your phone contact list is the same as your GMail's. When you add/edit a contact online, it syncs with your phone. You can add a Google Calendar widget on your Home Screen. The best is the GMail app which according to most people is better than the Mail app on the IPhone. Basically, when using your Android phone for the first time, you login with your GMail credentials and you automatically have your contact and calendar on your phone. "PS: Apple doesn't do maps." They will soon. Apple bought PlaceBase last year. http://blogs.computerworld.com/14835/apple_purchased_mapping_company_in_july_to_replace_google http://blogs.computerworld.com/14835/apple_purchased_mapping...
      - blasdel 17y ago
        mail.google.com in MobileSafari is better than the Mail app on the iPhone I only have my gmail account set up in the native app to get push notifications via exchange integration.
      - joubert 17y ago
        imap
- bad_user 17y ago
  iPhone users don't depend on iPhone per se; rather they depend on a cool device that can make calls, play music and run some apps, which at the time of this writing there's at least one other major provider (quality, market penetration notwithstanding). There, I fixed that for you.
buster 17y ago
My reply on their site, i think Jason Schwarz got a lot wrong, mixed up things.. sujective bad written article, imo: "On the other hand, i heard that Apple looks to replace google by bing, don't know if this is true, but if it is, it shows who is scared and who is not. What you don't see with your view of "iphone + itunes + appstore" is that by the end of the year it will be "dozens of android phones, tablets, ebookreaders, mp3 players + android market + youtube + gmail + gdocs". In my oppinion, Apple is in the position to lose market share on the mobile market (which analysts also predict) and has a reason to be afraid of. They have been the major (like 99%) player in this area for years and now fear to lose some ground, which is just natural. You make a lot of assumptions and mix things up (google search vs. facebook, d'oh?) to tell your theory, but all in all, i wouldn't agree. Also, afaik Schmidt left the board because of conflicting interests, which just seems natural for me. If you would be Apple, you wouldn't want to have such a competitor in your board, would you? Beforehand it was: Ok, Google brings good apps, ads, search, maps to our platform, thats great. With Android and Chrome OS this obviously changed. Then again, if GOOG shares go down, i'll be happy to buy them ;)"

by dannyr 17y ago

joubert 17y ago

iPhone users don't depend on Google Maps & Search per se; rather they depend on maps and search, which at time of this writing there's at least one other major provider (quality, market penetration notwithstanding). This can be swapped out. What I would not like to see is only 1 search provider, 1 map provider. Reminder: must check whether there is an OpenStreetMap iPhone app.

catch23 17y ago
To a certain extend, iPhone users do depend on the Google suite of products. If you're a GMail user, you probably have lots of saved locations on your google maps, items on your google calendar, and contacts & voicemail on google voice. The android integrates all of these "must-have" apps very nicely on a mobile device. Apple hasn't done so great with their mobile.me platform. Had they done better, the iphone would have been a great mobile device for their mail/contacts/maps.
- joubert 17y ago
  Only if you actually use GMail. I wonder what percentage of iPhone users use GMail on their phones vs. other email services. I don't use GMail. My calendar syncs with my non-G calendar and my Mac. Ditto for contacts. In what respect does Android integrate these features better than the iPhone does? The one thing that sucks on Google Maps is you don't have access to reviews (or at least in no way that I can determine). At least they show subway stops. I think success here is probably determined by number of hardware units sold. PS: Apple doesn't do maps.
  - dannyr 17y ago
    "In what respect does Android integrate these features better than the iPhone does?" Way, way better on Android. This is the main reason why I'm not switching to the IPhone. Your phone contact list is the same as your GMail's. When you add/edit a contact online, it syncs with your phone. You can add a Google Calendar widget on your Home Screen. The best is the GMail app which according to most people is better than the Mail app on the IPhone. Basically, when using your Android phone for the first time, you login with your GMail credentials and you automatically have your contact and calendar on your phone. "PS: Apple doesn't do maps." They will soon. Apple bought PlaceBase last year. http://blogs.computerworld.com/14835/apple_purchased_mapping_company_in_july_to_replace_google http://blogs.computerworld.com/14835/apple_purchased_mapping...
    - blasdel 17y ago
      mail.google.com in MobileSafari is better than the Mail app on the iPhone I only have my gmail account set up in the native app to get push notifications via exchange integration.
    - joubert 17y ago
      imap
bad_user 17y ago
iPhone users don't depend on iPhone per se; rather they depend on a cool device that can make calls, play music and run some apps, which at the time of this writing there's at least one other major provider (quality, market penetration notwithstanding). There, I fixed that for you.

buster 17y ago

My reply on their site, i think Jason Schwarz got a lot wrong, mixed up things.. sujective bad written article, imo: "On the other hand, i heard that Apple looks to replace google by bing, don't know if this is true, but if it is, it shows who is scared and who is not. What you don't see with your view of "iphone + itunes + appstore" is that by the end of the year it will be "dozens of android phones, tablets, ebookreaders, mp3 players + android market + youtube + gmail + gdocs". In my oppinion, Apple is in the position to lose market share on the mobile market (which analysts also predict) and has a reason to be afraid of. They have been the major (like 99%) player in this area for years and now fear to lose some ground, which is just natural. You make a lot of assumptions and mix things up (google search vs. facebook, d'oh?) to tell your theory, but all in all, i wouldn't agree. Also, afaik Schmidt left the board because of conflicting interests, which just seems natural for me. If you would be Apple, you wouldn't want to have such a competitor in your board, would you? Beforehand it was: Ok, Google brings good apps, ads, search, maps to our platform, thats great. With Android and Chrome OS this obviously changed. Then again, if GOOG shares go down, i'll be happy to buy them ;)"